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The War Between the Land and the Sea Limited Edition Steelbook
Available to order from www.amazon.co.uk
When a fearsome and ancient species emerges from the ocean, dramatically revealing themselves to humanity, an international crisis is triggered.
With the entire population at risk, UNIT step into action as the land and sea wage war.
The Toymaker
September 9th, 2025 - 10:57pmRe the comments on colourised Who, Ben Cook said on Twitter that none are currently in the works for this year but The War Games was extremely successful and that once the future of the show is clearer (presumably funding-related) the implication was there may be more colourisations.
Personally I’m more keen on animations right now. Some odd comments from Wills re Smugglers and another actress re Myth Makers, both quickly shot down and retractions issued. So who knows what’s going on, the entire franchise seems in a gigantic mess thanks to Disney.
NickD
September 10th, 2025 - 6:25amIt’s in a gigantic mess courtesy of the BBC and RTD. Not Disney, if they had not provided funding for the last we years we’d have had no new Who since Jodie’s swan song.
D84
September 10th, 2025 - 9:40amI am more keen on the Animations personally and would like that pipeline to stay active and healthy
atl
September 10th, 2025 - 10:02amwith the colourised episodes they did do a better job on the war games then on the daleks but with so many missing episodes i want the animations more
Bookcollector
September 10th, 2025 - 5:54pmAnimations for me. No interest in colourisations unless they are unedited and with the original soundtrack intact.
Gordon
September 11th, 2025 - 9:58amI just want to point out Disney had nothing to do with animations or colourisations.
Also how colourisations are funded and commissioned completely separate from the animations with different people in charge and working on them.
The colourisations come from bad wolf studios and commissioned and funded by bbc 4 for broadcast/iplayer and eventually dvd/blu ray release.
The animations are commissioned by bbc studios for dvd/blu ray release and also eventually used for streaming (like bbc iPlayer/tubi and potentially to be sold to other streaming services and channels for potential broadcasts)
One doesn’t affect the other. If more colourisations happen it won’t be at the expense or the priority of further animations and vice versa.
Bookcollector
September 11th, 2025 - 11:53amI think a lot of people have completely misunderstood the Disney deal. They have very little to do with anything beyond showing it exclusively worldwide and providing some funding for the making of the show. As, you say Gordon they have no influence on funding either animations or colourisations. My comments were based solely on a preference over which I like. I didn’t think people thought new releases were dependant on Disney money I assumed people knew it has nothing to do with Disney. We would have got new who without the Disney deal but it would perhaps have had to be done on a much lower budget and I think that might have been for the best as i think it would have moved the focus from “look at these amazing effects” to “how can we effectively use the budget we have to tell stories”.
James
September 6th, 2025 - 11:52amWhen rtd returned he said there would be content every year. No gaps. As they didn’t produce a s3 due to Disney not making their mind up that’s why WBTLATS has been pushed back to 2026 to fill the whoniverse gap. It had finished filing this time last year and even with post production a summer/autumn 25 transmission would have been viable. It even had a trailer after s2 ended. So we can expect a s3/16 2027 spring at the earliest. That’s if they can’t sneak a Christmas 2026 special in in between.
Maybe be lucky to get a colour 60s film edition for Christmas to fill the 2025 Christmas special gap. Anyone heard of one being worked on?
Prof Horner
September 6th, 2025 - 12:40pmWell James, I think it is likely that it will be at least a year be before any more Nu Who goes into production. Which would mean autumn 2027 at the earliest for transmission, given how long takes to make it. I would be surprised if we another colourized sixties story, this year. If so I would like Tomb of the Cybermen.
Bookcollector
September 6th, 2025 - 2:53pmAs far as I remember there are no plans for more colourised who. I think it was Gordon who posted that a while back
Anonymous
September 6th, 2025 - 3:40pmNo colourised Who, but Ben Cook confirmed at Utopia that another Who project is in the works…
not RTD
September 6th, 2025 - 3:43pmrtd said there would be content every year. No gaps. before he made it he tried to use doctor who as a platform / propaganda instead of making it good and he thought we would watch it no matter what it was like (just throw a blue box in it ) but people have started to have enough of any woke c,.p and being guilted in to watching and pretending to like it because if people don’t we are racist sexist homophobic or whatever .. it was our problem not theirs and when the ratings went down it was because of streaming services but it was because of the quality of the programmes and not just doctor who but most things on the bbc and itv
Amypondfan
September 6th, 2025 - 4:20pmThat could be the cbeebies animation series
bbb
September 6th, 2025 - 5:31pmhe said there would be content every year. before he made a pigs ear out of it and people turned over now those who paid for it don’t want to do it again
Missyrules
September 6th, 2025 - 8:02pmDisney didn’t finance the whole show they provided some money not all.
James
September 6th, 2025 - 10:36pmBookcollector
I must have missed it. Remember when/where?
Gordon
September 7th, 2025 - 12:07amBen cook said a few months back nothing colourised was currently in the works. I get the impression that hasn’t changed but whether that actually is the case I don’t know. If it has changed I wouldn’t expect it this year. There just hasn’t been enough time.
Considering they have to wait till after war broadcasts to find out if Disney are in or out it will be more likely late 2027 for the next season with maybe a Christmas 2026 special with Billie and maybe tennant (14). The production turnaround time seems to be far longer than it used to be from even 10 years ago.
Tom
September 7th, 2025 - 1:09pmMAD. We’re not getting anything until late 2027 at the earliest. They need to wait for Disney’s decision after Land and Sea, which will probably be early next year or maybe even spring, and then it takes a year and a half to make a series of Dr who. We might get a repeat of 2023 where you get 3 specials with a throwback actor (David and now Billie) and then a new doctor in a Xmas 2027 special, but any doctor who next year is dead dead dead.
The DR.
September 7th, 2025 - 8:51pmWell Said not Rtd, Total Woke Agenda Driven Propaganda. I Couldn’t believe what i was Watching As these last Two seasons Progressed. And Yes if the Majority of the people (Like me) have no interest in the these issues whatsoever, we are made to feel Guilty of being Racist or Homophobic. Which is Utter Nonsense.
not RTD
September 7th, 2025 - 9:18pmyes your right THE DR ….live and let live but we don’t need shoved down our throats (as it were)
The DR.
September 7th, 2025 - 9:34pmYes, I havnt a Problem with Any Minoritys but I don’t want it shoved down my Throat every Time I pick up a Newspaper or Turn on the TV, Watch a Program or Film or even Advert. I’m beginning to Wonder when it’s all going to End.
I Watch Dr Who For A good, Well Told Story About a TimeLord and there Companions Travelling in a Blue Police Box Battling Evil, Aliens, Monsters etc For a bit of Escapism from this World we live in. I don’t want to be Lectured every time I put on the TV.
not RTD
September 7th, 2025 - 9:46pmyes all we want is a bit of a escape for 25 or 45 minutes .its not much to ask for but over the last few years all we got is hollyoaks in space ,,the only good tv of films i can see is when i put on a disc
The DR.
September 7th, 2025 - 9:58pmYes, I’m sure alot of People, just like us have Watched Doctor Who for Years, Maybe Even Decades just for a bit of Fun and Escapism.
not RTD
September 7th, 2025 - 10:00pmbut the amount of (people) on the web have called me names just because i don’t think the way doctor who as been since 2018 is not the best thing ever i have lost count , they try to gaslight me time and time again and use any trick to make me feel i am in the wrong and not just about doctor who it will end one day it has to ,,because money talks as they say….. go woke go broke
not RTD
September 7th, 2025 - 10:05pmbut is not all bad …. nothing can take away any of the good doctor who episodes
Anonymous
September 7th, 2025 - 11:58pmDoctor Who has always dealt with social issues and (often) very left wing politics. Like all BBC programmes of the era, it was created to educate and inform, not escapism. Look at the Daleks, The Green Death, Peladon, The Happiness Patrol or all the stories of oppressed peoples. Politics in the show is usually very overt in the ‘classic’ era. You can also see all the social activism of old Who actors today – Katy Manning, Louise Jameson, Janet Fielding, Sophie Aldred… I think RTD has been fairly successful in continuing this tradition – his main fault has been in series finales, rather than any assumed ‘agenda’.
Barney
September 8th, 2025 - 7:03amThe thing is, it always had dealt with political issues but usually it was the framing of a story which then had it be the underpin, but there was still a story around it….you could watch curse of peladon without knowing about the uk joining the euro zone (as I did when I first watched it at 10) and still enjoy it without that being s thing. The new series the agenda is the story….thats it. Which leaves people feeling they are being beaten over the head by it and even those with quite left wing ideals missing an actual story which is the camp I fall into. Its why the accusation if poor writing of late for me is a valid critism theres very little skill in literaly making your show about x issue and not even shoe horning it in. Hopefully itl improve after a rest.
The Flying Shark
September 8th, 2025 - 9:09am“When I first watched it at 10” being the operative phrase there…the Pertwee stories were no more unsubtle at getting their politics in than the modern series, you just didn’t notice it
The DR.
September 8th, 2025 - 11:42amYou’ve hit the Nail on the Head Barney. I know Politics have always Entered into Doctor Who from Time to Time but it was Subtley put in Around a Great Story. With RTDs Second run the Agenda is the Story. Theres Absolutely Nothing else. I think even Anonymous can see that?
Anonymous
September 8th, 2025 - 1:18pmI genuinely don’t know what you mean by this ‘agenda’. There’s plenty of issues with the recent RTD era, but I don’t see how they’re political. Perhaps some examples?
Prof Horner
September 8th, 2025 - 1:41pmThis supposed to be about merchandise. Let’s stick to talking about that and leave politics out of it.
The DR.
September 8th, 2025 - 1:47pmProf Horner, I’m looking Forward to the War between the Land and the Sea. (Even though it’s Written by RTD). As I mentioned in a previous Comment of mine I Ordered it straight away. I’m just hoping it’s a Good Well Written Story. (Is that too much to Ask for)?
booboo
September 9th, 2025 - 9:31amPointless trying to sop it as people just used variations of it.
Snowman
September 9th, 2025 - 12:01pmHello Booboo, Yes A.Non.Ymous, Commenting as Anonymous was supposed to to banned on this Site as Numerous people were using it at the same time and causing Confusion. I don’t know why people won’t listen?
Bookcollector
September 9th, 2025 - 1:42pmI don’t think there is an agenda as such, I think the story lines are reflecting a modern theme. Many shows are doing a similar style of story. I don’t mind the addition to plots of modern concerns. I have said that I struggled with ncuti’s second series and it was the general writing I found weak. Plot holes are not the issue, most stories have plot holes. For instance.
Evil of the daleks. The whole of episode one and half of episode two are unnecessary. The daleks plan to capture the doctor is ridiculously convoluted. All that needed to happen was for Kennedy, who doesn’t need to hide as the doctor has never seen him before, to wait in the warehouse area and tell the doctor to go to the shop at 10pm to see the person who took the TARDIS for an explanation.
Genesis of the daleks. After a thousand years of war the thal and kaled cities are still within easy walking distance of each other.
Pyramids of mars. Why does sutekh use the corridor to travel to England? All he has to do is walk out of the pyramid in Egypt and he has won!
So plot holes are not the issue for me it was a lack of care in the storyline or just a lack of care with the characters combined with saccarine endings. From what I’ve heard of war it doesn’t appeal to me. However others will like it and that’s perfectly fine. Others like series two and they are entitled too do so. I liked ncuti’s first season (although I still find the finale weak) and I loved jodie’s era. At the moment I haven’t ordered this and I’m not sure I’m interested in even watching it on TV and if I don’t watch it I won’t make any comments about it as how could I? I do think the biggest problem with ncuti’s era was when it was filmed. The second series began filming as the 60th anniversary stories were being shown and that means any issues raised by the first series couldn’t really be addressed as it was pretty much too late. Look I love who and when or if it returns I’ll happily watch it.
Gordon
September 6th, 2025 - 1:11amI’m probably in the minority here but does anybody else feel £45 for a blu ray steelbook of 5 episodes is overpriced. If it was 4k I’d find it justifiable but it’s not. Probably only going to be 3 discs at most as well. Even the normal blu ray release i find over price at £32.99. Personally i think the dvd should be about £19.99 blu ray at £25 and steelbook at £30 ish
James
September 6th, 2025 - 11:42amAgreed. I picked up the full new tricks box set for £50 last year on dvd I k ow but still 12 series of 107 episodes. Torchwood, sja and class didn’t have steel books so why has this one? Also a bit odd to put up for preorder this early. Even if a January transmission minimum, still 4 months away.
Snowman
September 6th, 2025 - 1:23pmGordon, I think it’s to do with Production Numbers. The Smaller the Production run of any Product the More the price increases to cover the Shortfall, otherwise it might be no longer Viable to make. I should imagine the BBC thinks this show on Blu-ray/DVD might not sell aswell as the Main Dr Who Show. I’m not saying it’s Great it’s just how things work.
Gordon
September 7th, 2025 - 12:09amIt doesn’t look like it’s a limited number. It’s being made just as readily available as the main show
NickD
September 10th, 2025 - 6:27amIt is very overpriced for a biscuit tin.
Tom Williams
September 4th, 2025 - 2:26pmPreordered this with h.. normally don’t buy these steel books especially now days as still sadly got too get series 1/9 sealed back this month :/
Tom Williams
September 6th, 2025 - 2:03amPlus if it’s only 5 episodes this is just like the same length as Torchwood children off earth lol they should especially redo them one day as steel books :/
Snowman
September 4th, 2025 - 2:16pmOrdered. Seems Bizarre though this as Gone up so Early for Pre-Order. Dont know how True it is but I heard rumours the Airing Date as been pushed back to Next Year now and I can’t see this Blu-Ray/ DVD Being Released while after the Series as been on TV?
Bookcollector
September 4th, 2025 - 2:46pm2026 air date does seem to be what is being talked about now but as ever it’s all just rumours so watch this space.
Snowman
September 4th, 2025 - 2:53pmYes, Time will Tell I Suppose.
Rex F
September 4th, 2025 - 3:28pmRadio Times: ‘Speaking at Edinburgh TV Festival in August 2025, the BBC’s director of content, Kate Phillips, mentioned that The War Between The Land and the Sea will arrive “next year.”‘
D84
September 5th, 2025 - 11:46amI wonder if this will arrive on New Years Day – as Gordon has suggested on the other thread
Would seem a good move, its a good audience day in general to get people hooked
Simon
September 5th, 2025 - 2:38pmIt’s not the air date that’s been pushed back it’s the Disney decision that’s been pushed back till 2026, bad wolf have announced this.
Amypondfan
September 5th, 2025 - 6:26pmSimon the air date hasn’t technically been pushed back as it never had one but this is looking like a 2026 air date which was apparently confirmed by the BBC back in August according to the radio times. As yet though there is no official confirmation of the air date. The decision on the deal with Disney will be after this airs as this completes the Disney 26 episode deal.
Clay
September 5th, 2025 - 11:32pm@Simon it’s both. Land and Sea had previously been announced for late 2025, and Russell had previously stated while season two was airing that there wouldn’t be a decision on a renewal until they’d run through their current allocation of 26 episodes, which includes the spin-off. The recent comment from Bad Wolf isn’t new information, they’ve literally been saying the same thing for months, the only thing that’s changed is Land and Sea has been pushed to 2026 which has the knock-on effect of pushing the renewal decision as well.
Bookcollector
September 4th, 2025 - 2:00pmHave to say the more I hear about this the less interest I have. For those who are interested, enjoy.
Snow
September 5th, 2025 - 2:16pmBeing able to preorder a TV show before they have said when the show will be airing is rather odd and does not inspire me to watch it.
Gordon
September 7th, 2025 - 12:21amIt’s hardly a 1 off. A few other seasons of the main show went to pre order before broadcast. Even the season just finished went up before broadcast. My guess (and it’s just a guess) that they put it up for pre order now as it was originally planned for an October/november broadcast and they just decided to put it up anyway.