September 15th, 2023
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Doctor Who The Collection Season 20 Limited Edition Packaging
Available to order from www.amazon.co.uk, www.zavvi.com and various retailers on www.ebay.co.uk
BBC Studios continues to offer Doctor Who fans the opportunity to build their own home archive on Blu-ray with a limited edition NINE DISC box set of the 20th Season from 1983, starring Peter Davison as the Fifth Doctor. This set is the most jam-packed release yet, with hours and hours of new and exclusive material.
- Arc Of Infinity
- Snakedance
- Mawdryn Undead
- Terminus
- Enlightenment
- The King’s Demons
- The Five Doctors (20th Anniversary Special)
Celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the programme, these stories feature the return of old friends, enemies and even past Doctors! Over seven exciting stories, the Fifth Doctor, Nyssa (Sarah Sutton), Tegan (Janet Fielding) and Turlough (Mark Strickson) face off against the Black Guardian, Omega, the Mara, the Master, Cybermen and the Time Lords themselves!
All episodes have been newly remastered from the best available sources including original film elements for The Five Doctors – these classic adventures have never looked or sounded so good on home media.
The Collection: Season 20 Blu-ray box set also includes extensive Special Features including:
THE FIVE DOCTORS – 40TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION
- A brand new version of the 90-minute anniversary special, with updated special effects,
- Dolby Atmos & surround sound, plus an exclusive new commentary with Peter Davison, Janet Fielding and Mark Strickson.
UPDATED 2023 SPECIAL EFFECTS
- Exclusive to Blu-ray, on Snakedance and Enlightenment.
BEHIND THE SOFA
- Seven new episodes with Peter Davison, Colin Baker (The Doctor), Sylvester McCoy (The Doctor),
- Sarah Sutton, Janet Fielding, Mark Strickson, Katy Maning (Jo) and Sophie Aldred (Ace).
BLU-RAY TRAILER
- A brand new episode of classic Doctor Who.
IN CONVERSATION
- Interviewer Matthew Sweet chats to Janet Fielding and Sarah Sutton.
LET’S GO DUTCH!
- The TARDIS crew travel to Amsterdam to revisit locations and reminisce about Season 20 and their time on the programme.
LOOK WHO’S DRIVING
- Join Peter Davison, Janet Fielding and Sarah Sutton on an hilarious European Road Trip.
WHEN JANET MET MARTIN
- Janet Fielding chats to Martin Clunes, 40 years on from his appearance in Snakedance.
MAKING THE KING’S DEMONS
- The regular cast return to the castle location and reminisce.
MAKING THE SEASON 20 TRAILER
- A look behind the scenes
LONGLEAT CELEBRATION FOOTAGE
- A previously-unreleased look at the iconic 1983 convention, plus panels featuring Peter Davison, Tom Baker, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee and many more.
STUDIO FOOTAGE
- Hours of material going behind-the-scenes on production of Arc Of Infinity, Snakedance and The Five Doctors.
LOCATION FILM RUSHES
- From The Five Doctors.
RARE CONVENTION FOOTAGE
- Including Australian interviews with Peter Davison and Janet Fielding shot during production of this season.
ONCE UPON A TIME LORD
- A rare US documentary from the 1980s.
NEW 5.1 SURROUND SOUND MIXES
- On Snakedance and The Five Doctors. Plus Dolby Atmos mixes on The Five Doctors.
ARCHIVE TREATS
- Hours of rare and previously unreleased material from the BBC Archives.
HD PHOTO GALLERIES
- Including many previously unseen images.
INFO TEXT
- Behind-the-scenes information and trivia on every episode.
PDF ARCHIVE
- Including scripts, exclusive unseen BBC production files, the Radio Times 20th Anniversary Special and other rarities.
PLUS LOTS MORE!
This nine-disc box set also includes hours of special features previously released on DVD including Documentaries, Featurettes, Audio Commentaries, The Five Doctors Special Edition and more.
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MJS
September 16th, 2023 - 11:55amHow ODD for Amazon to be so behind with this one. I expect the delivery date to change but it’s still showing as 23rd Sept.
ex15
September 16th, 2023 - 3:42pmMines coming on Monday from Amazon
Lewis frisby
September 16th, 2023 - 4:10pmIt is usually that up until eather the day of or day before release then it changes you will probably get it on time
MJS
September 17th, 2023 - 9:19amYeah it’s changed. Dispatched today
Bucket Masta
September 16th, 2023 - 10:51amMy copy arrived half an hour ago and I’ve been watching the “Arc of Infinity” extras. My previous post has not been uploaded for some reason
Mark
September 16th, 2023 - 1:19pmI love watching arc of infinity, but my personal favourite is mawdryn undead. And those flashbacks for the brigadier, the five doctors is tops, especially in Dolby.
I wont discuss extras etc, because some on have to have theirs but its very exciting and adds nicely to my collection. Its worth its money in my books.
Mark
September 16th, 2023 - 1:23pmTypo, in all the excitement, that should read, i wont say anything about the extras etc, because some on have yet to have theirs, only fair!,
Bucket masta
September 16th, 2023 - 10:09amMy copy has arrived already and about to start “Arc of Infinity”
Ryan
September 16th, 2023 - 7:29amMine says it’s dispatched but it still says arriving. Mon 25th as well ‘Delivery Appointment Scheduled’. Should I leave it as it is hoping it’ll change automatically?
Gordon
September 16th, 2023 - 8:08amIt changes automatically
D84
September 16th, 2023 - 10:40amExactly the same here Ryan, mine is now dispatched with delivery appointment scheduled for Monday.
It will turn up Monday afternoon I’m certain
Jake E
September 16th, 2023 - 11:14amRoyal Mail said mine was due Monday yesterday but it just turned up early today and the set is in absolute Mint condition.
Maybe they learned from the Season 2 fiasco or I just got lucky this time (quality wise). Although I did immediately drop disc 1 but luckily there’s still not a single mark on it 🙂
Excited to get dug in now. Hopefully everyone gets a perfect set and enjoys it
Prowl 1701
September 17th, 2023 - 3:09amI don’t really care for that artwork at all. The colors look nice and really pop, but it doesn’t reach out and grab me. Plus I would have prefered either Ten, Eleven, or Twelve on the front, or better yet all of the modern Doctors.
Prowl 1701
September 17th, 2023 - 3:10amMeant to post that under the comment about the 1-13 set. the season 20 set is gorgeous.
Jake E
September 15th, 2023 - 9:51pmDoctor Who Series 1-13 Limited Edition New Who Collector’s Blu-Ray set looks gorgeous!!
I’ve seen the pictures on Facebook. The artwork looks perfect and the certificate of authenticity is cool too. I’m excited and the logo matches the Collection sets 🙂
Gordon
September 16th, 2023 - 7:53amhttps://youtu.be/fQs5CmDJQEk?si=gKN04UZZujoJ3Tb6
For those not with facebook
Duncan
September 16th, 2023 - 1:59pmI had an email from the Royal Mail yesterday saying that I’d get the boxset on Monday, then, like you, mine arrived today !! Not complaining! Its a big one, isn’t it ? 🙂
James
September 16th, 2023 - 10:13pmLove the look of the sets. Look like NewWho versions of The Collection.
Hopefully we get a Moffet Era set like the 1-4 RTD Era set coming out. But maybe have to be a 2 part set (5-7 +50th and 8-10).
Would prefer this instead of The Collection doing each NewWho season if they do do them.
D84
September 15th, 2023 - 2:13pmOther than Mark – anyone else had their copy turn up yet?
Mine (Amazon) hasn’t been despatched yet but that’s not unusual
The Unlicensed Physician
September 15th, 2023 - 3:07pmMark is apparently something to do with one of the factories.
Gordon
September 15th, 2023 - 3:10pmWould have it but had to head to work. Tracking said Less than 5 minutes after I left they attempted delivery. 3 minutes! Couldn’t believe it. Going to try tomorrow but no one will be in. Wish I can just head up to collect it
Alzie Who 66
September 15th, 2023 - 4:43pmNothing yet from Amazon
James
September 15th, 2023 - 8:31pmMine says 25th September delivery
Prowl 1701
September 15th, 2023 - 9:00pmJason had an unboxing video up on YouTube .
https://youtu.be/XLT1ON4DVGI?si=xhS7xCDevZwltYAc
Anon
September 15th, 2023 - 9:57pmArriving monday. Just had Royal mail notification.
D84
September 16th, 2023 - 6:53amMy Amazon order now shows “Dispatching Now” so I guess it will get shipped today and then held for delivery to me on Monday as usual – this is what has happened to the last half a dozen sets
Happy days
Anon
September 16th, 2023 - 10:13amJust arrived. Now for a bumper days worth of viewing.
Happy days indeed.
Lee
September 16th, 2023 - 3:54pmYes, mine arrived this morning.
Darren collier
September 14th, 2023 - 4:32pmHi ordered box set of eBay mines was sent off to me this morning. Maybe tomorrow or Saturday. Looking forward to seeing it. Roll on when all sets are done. But have keeping all old doctor who DVDs box set not selling like. Picture covers too much. Lifelong fan. Roll on. 60 th anniversary buying Blu-ray 1to 4 hope work out pictures and sound this time have all steel books available too
Darren collier
September 15th, 2023 - 12:43pmMine come. This morning. Fantastic set. Playing weekend.
James
September 14th, 2023 - 12:47pmSo with it officially due next week, within the next 4 weeks due are we going to get another announcement for a 3rd set for end dec23/Jan24? And smugglers announcement? And Toymaker rumoured to get a releases around November/Xmas time? Or even a special out of the blue full lost story found for 60th anniversary release?
Prof Horner
September 14th, 2023 - 1:03pmIn my Dreams it will be a lost in time 2, with all the recently discovered missing episodes. But I do think we will get announcement on 5th of October for the next boxset in time for next month’s DWM.
D84
September 14th, 2023 - 2:55pmOoooh sounds like you’ve been looking through the calendar Prof and working out D day for things to drop – I like it
As yet we still need to see final artwork revealed for UWM and RTD Era releases so they may land over the next few weeks
James
September 14th, 2023 - 4:04pmProf. Would this be the odd clips from power of the Daleks, eps 3 and 2 from g4 and uwm, and 9 eps from enemy and Web? Or the same set with all above added?
Someone had suggested somewhere about a set with all the current animations on.
D84. Hope they do a Moffat Era after that. Series 5-10 plus 50th.
Gordon
September 14th, 2023 - 5:08pmPeter Crocker mentioned back in July that he had at least 2 blu ray projects to deliver this month so it would suggest we might be getting at least 2 announcements between now and the anniversary. One is probably a collection set and the other is probably an animation or a special edition of sort (an unearthly child maybe with it being the 60th).
Prof Horner
September 14th, 2023 - 6:02pmWell James I meant full episodes that may have been recently recovered and released on a Lost in Time 2 boxset. As I said in my dreams . But I will be happy with season 6 13 ,16 or even 15 , in that order, next. I am about to start watching Time Flight, having worked my way through season 19 in readiness for season 20, which will hopefully come Sunday or Monday. Season 19 is in my opinion the best eighties season . But I am ready to be surprised by season 20 and Peter Davison is the best of the eighties Doctors by far . Not forgetting the lovely Sarah Sutton in the first four stories.
anon
September 12th, 2023 - 5:39pmZavvi just took payment for it, can’t wait I’m so excited to watch the new version of Five Doctors.
Prowl 1701
September 12th, 2023 - 10:44pmI hope some get sent out early. It will take a while for mine to cross the pond, but I love watching the YouTube unboxings for people that get them quickly. Tides me over until mine arrives!
D84
September 13th, 2023 - 7:32amMine still showing “Not Yet Despatched” but that’s not unusual for Amazon
I expect much like the other sets I’ve had – on Saturday or Sunday the delivery date will magically change to Monday 18th – currently shows 25th
We’ll see
Gordon
September 13th, 2023 - 7:56amI have been charged. Zavvi have been awaiting dispatch since Monday afternoon
Mark
September 13th, 2023 - 10:43amFor those on here still jealous, my season 20 order has arrived, as expected by today or early thursday, something to see this weekend, i wont be a spoiler, that way you can all enjoy yours when it comes, that way you can avoid squabbling over who supposed to get what, when, who from and how much. I now look forward the next 2.
Mark
September 13th, 2023 - 10:53amCan positively say the new visual effects and updated music on the last disc for the 5 doctors is very well made
Only watch a clip, will watch over the weekend. When i have more time.
Gordon
September 13th, 2023 - 1:32pmMy copy is on its way
D84
September 13th, 2023 - 9:57pm@Mark – you say “The next two”
Spoilers???
Mark
September 14th, 2023 - 5:29pmD84, I look forward to the next 2 boxsets which should be announced. But I’m not spoiling things for others. Just have to wait and see. That’s it, .
MJS
September 15th, 2023 - 3:39pmD84 – my Amazon delivery date is 23rd. All seems a bit random.
I really know nothing, but like people to think I do
September 15th, 2023 - 7:35pmLooking forward to the next 3, no spoilers but they definitely will be another 3 and they definitely will be announced, I can’t wait, I’m sure you will all love them, I don’t want to spoil the next 3 but they definitely will have the doctor in then a companion, sorry I’ve said too much, but trust me there will be 3 more and and they will get announced on a day which I don’t want to spoil for you but it has a Y in it. No more spoilers.
Danger man
September 10th, 2023 - 4:41pmHere’s a clip of Ian levine’s massacre animation. He’s asking for £100 for the whole thing. Watch it before he privates it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=l24W-OpkcHeIpLtW&v=OHpm9MFFyUw&feature=youtu.be
Rex Farrel
September 11th, 2023 - 6:57pmI do feel sorry for Ian, because I know he can’t always help it. I wish he had better friends.
SV7
September 11th, 2023 - 7:17pmLook, good on Ian for actually putting his money were his mouth is, but this isn’t for me I’m afraid. Sorry.
Gordon
September 11th, 2023 - 9:27pmExcept he’s only putting 10 percent (2k) of the money where his mouth is. The other 90 percent (18k) is other people’s money.
It’s hard to really judge this because in 1 respect it’s a fan project but on the other hand ian is expecting people to pay £100 minimum for it. If it was a free thing on the internet it would be fine. However it isn’t. It really needs to be better. A lot better. Ian has hyped this up to be better than the abominable snowman animation but it’s nowhere close at present. Looks way too basic and the movement is a bit jerky and minimal. Underwater menace looks and moves better than this and a copy is a 5th of what Ian is asking.
It supposedly is costing 20k from “a professional animation team” and all it seems to be is traced images from the loose cannon recon with basic hand/head/mouth movement filling in the blanks inbetween. I always questioned how it’s only costing 20k for the full thing as a professional animation team would cost at least 25k minimum per episode. Having seen this it’s because clear as the animation is basic as they come.
Pierre
September 11th, 2023 - 10:24pmHoly lord. It looks like a b&w Captain Pugwash.
Jake E
September 12th, 2023 - 9:46amIf it was on YouTube for free I would say fair play it looks decent and it’s better than nothing but for £100 na it looks like a £10 on discount sort of release.
Also yesterday Ian was attacking a 12 yr old kid and his Grandad on Facebook. Lovely chap
Who is who?
September 12th, 2023 - 1:04pmBBC professional animations cost around six figures and I would rather pay £20 for a blu ray from them. This is just awful, like something from South Park. I would also add that I feel legally he’s sailing close to the wind producing a BBC project and taking money for it. He might say £100 goes towards an animation, but it could these people are working for free and he’s pocketing the lot!
Gordon
September 12th, 2023 - 1:37pmWell ian is livid that the clip leaked. He called a rejected first clip then called it a rejected 2nd clip. Calling it a betrayal and and copyright theft ironic considering his clip has bbc copyright material on it. However he’s refusing to put out a clip as he said he’s not going to be bullied into it
Rex Farrel
September 12th, 2023 - 6:20pmI see I’m not the only person who was reminded of a certain pirate captain… Like almost everyone else on the planet who knows of him I used to laugh along and mostly see Ian as a source of jokes (and he didn’t half make it easy!), but now I just find the whole situation very sad.
Gordon
September 12th, 2023 - 6:33pmApparently these questions were “too personal” for him to answer
1) Who is animating this project?
2) Why isn’t this being handled through a proper
Kickstarter/crowdfunding service?
3) What recourse is there for those who donate if the project falls apart? What guarantees are there that it won’t?
4) Why are you being charged so much to send any sum of money?
This project is fishy in all kinds of levels.
Jake E
September 12th, 2023 - 6:48pmAll those people that paid £100 before even seeing a clip. Ooof
Pierre
September 13th, 2023 - 12:36amThis might be the wrong place to mention it but I watched the new Babylon 5 animated film and the animation was excellent. I’m sure it’s currently beyond the BBC’s budget but could the animations improve as the tech gets cheaper?
Gordon
September 13th, 2023 - 1:05amAnother day another Levine leak. Looks like he’s getting different animators to do different episodes. Ep 1 shows real promise.
Ep 1 of masterplan
https://youtu.be/o-kaEuHiQTw?si=sQiiUYyJBpGAFoTg
Ep 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS0tL_Joc3E
Prowl 1701
September 13th, 2023 - 5:13amLoved B5: The Road Home. As I was watching it, I was thinking “I wish doctor who animations could look this good”.
Gordon
September 13th, 2023 - 7:54amFrom the trailer it looks amazing. I do suspect with it being Warner brothers and them having an animation studio structure set up and shorter 70 odd minutes of animation runtime I suspect the budget for it will be many times higher than any of the doctor who ones. I watched an interview with Gary Russell that he did for time scales. He mentions doing an Australian cartoon in the 2010s and the budget for one 20 odd minute episode was more than the whole of fury from the deep combined
Gordon
September 13th, 2023 - 1:33pmTurns out some of the images ian have been sharing is a.I
Rex Farrel
September 14th, 2023 - 6:49amThat shows the limits of current A.I. An actual Intelligence would have popped up the caption, “Ian! No!”
Basil Funkenstein
September 10th, 2023 - 4:12pmIf Season 6 is hypothetically next then how do people think they will represent the Space Pirates seeing as there are no telesnaps for this story?
Pete X
September 10th, 2023 - 4:48pmProbably pseudo-animated sketches/drawings – no animated movement, walking, speaking, etc but static backgrounds overwhich static characters are placed and are focused into/out from to indicate character and/or camera movement.
James
September 10th, 2023 - 7:31pmGot to be animated then. No choice. Only the 3 Troughton stories left (space, wheel and highlanders) so why no just animate them.
Gordon
September 10th, 2023 - 9:59pmThey will probably base it on the loose cannon recon. It will most likely be an updated version of that
Bob
September 10th, 2023 - 11:31pmIf photo composites aren’t possible then probably just the soundtracks with narration. They could also go for a more hand-drawn approach like with Death Comes to Time, Real Time and the 8th Doctor version of Shada.
D84
September 11th, 2023 - 8:59amI imagine in the best way they can
Its not on the list of rumoured animations and even if it was you’d think there would be a gap of a couple of years to allow a new animation to sell as a solo product before then being included in a boxset – so animation is out of the question I this point I suspect.
Its not a story I am overly precious about so it doesn’t make a lot of difference to me (controversial I know) – ill be happy with whatever they do with it – even if that’s largely audio only
Jake E
September 11th, 2023 - 3:14pmWould people be ok with visuals being stick figures? I would do it for cheap 🙂
Anonymous
September 11th, 2023 - 5:19pmPerhaps I’m just being contrary, but Space Pirates is a story I’d really like to see animated. The ‘telesnaps’ (or lack thereof) version is difficult for me to follow personally, so I think it has the most to gain from animation. As much as I’d LOVE to see Masterplan animated, that’s a story I can follow fine with much of the excitement intact.
Prowl 1701
September 12th, 2023 - 10:49pmI’d love space pirates to get animated, I think there is a lot of potential for an animation team to take advantage of there. The novel is actually a really good read. The surviving episode 2 is a nice watch. It’s just the recon that’s hard to get through. The story itself is actually good.
Gordon
September 7th, 2023 - 12:59pmhttps://soundcloud.com/powerof3pod/137-season-20-the-restoration?si=115b2f93c02a4a2eb554f0cfb56b7ce9&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
Peter crocker and Richard bignell appear on the power of 3 podcast.
Peter talks about the challenges with the restoration of season 20. It’s more work than I realised. Also mentioned how they found the missing picture negatives of episode 7 of the daleks. (He also mentioned he hasn’t even started restoring s1 yet)
Richard talks about some of the pdf work for season 20. Mentions the number of pdfs has gone up since the announcement.
Prof Horner
September 7th, 2023 - 1:53pmI expect it will be a couple of years until season 1 comes out. We are all grateful for all the hard work that goes into these boxsets.
Rex Farrel
September 7th, 2023 - 2:47pmI’ve not listened to the podcast yet, but bearing in mind that the picture can at the BBC contained a sound negative, and the BFI held a can labelled as containing a sound negative (“not yet examined”), it wasn’t really rocket science to assume they’d been swapped over… I’d always thought they’d already looked, because it was such an obvious thing to do. So the lesson would appear to be that we should never presume that people have done the obvious – or what we consider obvious. (I could have told them when the catalogue first went online to the public, because it was one of the first things I checked!)
Rory
September 7th, 2023 - 3:33pm@prof Agreed. These sets are a labour of love from all concerned, and we should be grateful for all of the hard work that goes into making these the most complete versions of any series out there.
I certainly appreciate everything that we have, and look forward to what’s to come. Even (especially) S25.
Prowl 1701
September 8th, 2023 - 12:32amWas neat hearing Peter confirm that season 20 was suppose to come sooner, but covid happened and it kept getting delayed. Work was started on five doctors in 2019 becaused the updated effects were already planned and needed time to get made, and he was working on the rest of season 20 even in 2020.
Prowl 1701
September 6th, 2023 - 8:29pmSo what are you all excited about most of all in the season 20 boxset? For me it’s the 40th anniversary edition of the five doctors, I want to see the updated effects and how good the location work looks in HD. Also really excited for behind the sofa, as I always enjoy those, and arc of infinity, as I’ve been wanting to watch it again.
Prof Horner
September 6th, 2023 - 9:07pmWell I could say a scene in Terminus featuring my favourite Doctor Who girl.
Jake E
September 6th, 2023 - 10:51pmWatching the stories themselves, 40th Anniversary Five Doctors, Behind the Sofa, the road trips, audio commentaries, Real HD footage and I’m very interested in the studio footage too. Basically could be summed up as everything haha 🙂
What I’m not looking forward to is having to return and replace the set 100 times till I get a good set like I had to do with Season 2 (also 9 discs) in particular. Eeek especially as it may sell out haha
Bobby Fackrell
September 6th, 2023 - 11:03pmProf Down Boy!
Quark
September 7th, 2023 - 12:29amSelling it for a huge profit when it goes OOP.
Basil Funkenstein
September 7th, 2023 - 2:24amHaven’t seen anything from Seasons 20 and 21 in years so I’m looking forward to watching these stories again. Looking forward to all the stories/episodes with updated special effects, the omnibus editions, behind the sofa, and of course the new documentaries. It’s going to prove itself as another fantastic set. I’m hoping and praying we get one more this year. Fingers doubly crossed.
daz
September 7th, 2023 - 9:07amJake E. Totally agree, I have had to return a few sets now due to Amazon packaging being hit and miss. If only I didn’t have vouchers to use.
The new version of The Five Doctors interests me the most. But I do personally love just opening it for the first time, reading the booklet and seeing the beautiful artwork.
D84
September 7th, 2023 - 11:39amFive Doctors I think, whilst I watch them all in order when every set comes – I do enjoy the stories that have extended versions or updated effects more
Gordon
September 7th, 2023 - 12:16pmProbably the 5 doctors 40th anniversary version, the kings demons making of and the look who’s driving and going Dutch blu documentaries
Jake E
September 5th, 2023 - 10:07pmJust a heads up that HMV has sent out an email saying only the last few copies remain of Doctor Who Season 20 Collection Blu-Ray.
It looks like this may be the first set to sell out in years then
Prowl 1701
September 6th, 2023 - 2:30amStill readily available on Amazon UK and Zavvi.
D84
September 6th, 2023 - 9:07amWhen I look at this via my amazon app it tells me “800+” bought in the past month, although i’m sure when i have looked at it previously it told me “2k+” bought in the past month – that was a couple of weeks ago I think – so depends on their time frame of what “the past month” is
Similarly – UWM Animation Steelbook shows “2k+” bought in the past month – which I think given its only been available for pre order for about a month is pretty good
For S20 – given it contains The Five Doctors its bound to be a good seller – its a well regarded anniversary story (although as with most of Who not without its flaw’s)
When this arrives in 2 weeks time it will make 14 sets on the shelf with 12/13 yet to come – looking forward to the day I can stand and appreciate the awesomeness of “The Collection” in its entirety on the shelf, and watch them all (again) in order start to finish
James
September 6th, 2023 - 11:19amD84 is this the final ever sets or will they do 4k 3d ltimate collectors limited edition in years down the line? Lol
Gordon
September 6th, 2023 - 11:45amWouldn’t pay too much attention to that. Probably just trying to push last minute pre orders. Even if it was you will still get it on release date from other retailers.
As for James question I don’t really see it. There really isn’t any room for improvement by going to 4k for season sets plus the additional scanning costs would make it unviable. Might get the odd story that is predominately film on 4k. Spearhead, shada 5 doctors and maybe the recent animations but outside of that nah
D84
September 6th, 2023 - 11:46am@James – fair point. I’ve already bought every available story at least twice (VHS and then DVD) and now all again on Blu Ray – so if these come out again in 4k or whatever the next “standard” is after that – yep I dare say ill be buying those too lol
Jake E
September 6th, 2023 - 12:02pmIs Season 2 available anymore?
I can’t see it on Amazon, HMV or Zavvi unless I’m missing something?
Yes, D84 it said 2,000 a month ago and now 800+ which could mean they’ve sold almost 3000 copies since July 27th on Amazon alone! Only 12 days till it’s released, exciting! 🙂
booboo
September 6th, 2023 - 12:07pmMost likely more than double that, the vast majority of orders are placed within the first 48 hours
Jake E
September 6th, 2023 - 4:21pmBoo-boo you are correct I remember now that it said 6,000 then 2,000 and now 800+ so yeah something like 9,000 sold on Amazon right now and based on the rumours of roughly 10,000 getting made (Maybe they’ve made more for this set I’ve no idea) then it would make sense that HMV has almost run out!
booboo
September 6th, 2023 - 4:25pm12-14k sets i would think.
D84
September 6th, 2023 - 6:21pm14k per set isn’t it?
Hence why we got S12 2nd edition as the first press was limited to 7k to test the waters then when it sold out instantly they went with 14k for S19 onwards
@Gordon will correct me if I’m wrong I’m sure
Gordon
September 8th, 2023 - 6:45amIt was that at 1 point not sure if it still is
Basil Funkenstein
August 31st, 2023 - 7:45pmPredictions; If Season 6 next 6th of November announcement for January or February release, if Season 16 next 16th of October announcement for a December or January release, if Season 25 next 25th of October announcement for December or January release.
D84
August 31st, 2023 - 10:14pmWhilst I see your thinking – only 25th October had merit as it’s a Wednesday.
Announce don’t tend to come on a Monday or Friday although UWM was a recent exception and surprise
I expect whatever is next in “The Collection” range – it will be announced on a Thursday at 3pm
ThePrimordInfectant
August 27th, 2023 - 8:31pmFor anyone that’s interested in Blake’s 7 it appears that the BBC are reissuing Blake’s 7 on dvd AGAIN!!. I was hoping they might release a blu ray but nope I guess that’s impossible.
Prowl 1701
August 28th, 2023 - 2:49amOne of my subscribers sent me the whole series recently just watched the first episode a couple weeks ago. Enjoying it so far, needs more Paul Darrow though, episode 1 was lacking of Paul Darrow.
Gordon
August 28th, 2023 - 6:50amJust another repackaging it looks like. Only 5 years since they last repackaged them into a complete set and even then it was just reused discs from the original 2004-2006 DVDs with new labels on them. Even if it doesn’t get a blu ray release a remaster is very much needed. Looks really bad compared with doctor who on DVDs that are from the same time period.
Rex F
August 28th, 2023 - 2:23pmSeries 2 has really terrible noise reduction, the worst I’ve seen on a BBC title. If people’s arms and legs start disappearing in a simple shot of characters walking right to left, you really should be thinking about turning the dial down…
The Time Lord 1944
August 30th, 2023 - 10:31pmI own the Dutch dvds and they are better quality transfers as far as I can see.
The Unlicensed Physician
August 31st, 2023 - 3:56pmThe Dutch series 1 is definitely better, for a few reasons. Dutch series 2 is better encoded but still uses the DNR’d masters. I think 3 and 4 are near identical.
The Time Lord 1944
September 1st, 2023 - 1:38amThanks for that. Yes. It’s the marked improvement of Season 1 that gave me the impression it’s all improved. Your description is very accurate.
DPHill
August 25th, 2023 - 12:48pmSo what do people think, beige and cream? I think it could fit sn25 mccoys outfit and all, kind of bridges between his first and second coat,
Also could be the battle between dark and light for the key to time,
Don’t think it could be for six tho?? Seems deeper blue and purple to me, i dont know
Dylan
August 25th, 2023 - 1:35pm25 or 15 ( the sun makers)
D84
August 25th, 2023 - 2:50pmI think we can speculate all we like, it will be what it will be.
As others have suggested before – unlikely to be S3 or S4 – still some work to do there to fill in multiple gaps. S5 or S6 – possible if they are going with 1 missing story represented by stills – same with S1.
We’ve had a set from Doc 3 and 5 this year – so unlikely to be those – that leaves Tom and Slyv so basically could be any from S1, S5, S6, S13, S15, S16 or S25.
I would take a guess though at S13 / S15 or S16 as we have not had a Tom set for almost 2yrs – but equally could be a Troughton set so S5 or S6
Prowl 1701
August 25th, 2023 - 4:43pmIt makes me think of 13 or 6. I’ve always figured 13 would have a neutral color or maybe a red/orange, but tans and browns have been a strong color choice I’ve mentioned for it in videos before. I always figured 13 would be the last Tom Set but this really makes me think of 13 far more than 15 or 16. I always figured 15 would be green or yellow and that 16 would be the key to time color, like the dvd set.
Could be season 6, I think the 60’s seasons will have more on a monotone color like 2 mostly does. Plus the sepia color would fit for an old time black and white season. I can easily picture a season 6 set with this color in my head. And we know they are working on season 6 as bts has been filmed for mind robber.
So my guess is 13 or 6.
Basil Funkenstein
August 25th, 2023 - 7:46pmI reckon we’ll see an announcement trailer for the next season either the beginning or middle of October with the release date either middle of December or early January. I doubt they’d want to release it the week of Christmas or just after but that is a possibility.
As for the next set, I can see biege and cream working for 6 and 13 but I personally think it’ll be season 16. I’m hoping it isn’t because I agree with Prowl. I much prefer the more brighter lilac purple that they used for the special edition dvd boxset and I’d want that colour on the season 16 collection set but we did just get a purple set, albeit a darker purple, on season 9 and season 20 has a sort of pink-purple blend colour on it alongside the blue so another purple colour set seems unlikely, which is maybe why Lee has chosen beige and cream.
They could throw a curveball our way and release either 5, 6, or 13 as I do think this colour combination would suit those seasons. I’d prefer a green for season 5 but the sepia tone could work, it would also go with 6 and 13 as well.
I guess we’ll, hopefully, find out soon enough.
Basil Funkenstein
August 25th, 2023 - 7:54pmMy colour choices for seasons 5, 6, 13, 15, and 16.
5 – A light/middle green. Nothing too dark. Maybe a lighter seaweed colour.
6 – A dark blue or a deep purple. Different to season 9. Maybe a sort of midnight navy blue or maroon burgundy purple.
13 – Either brown, tan, beige,.and cream or red/orange.
15 – Middle to dark green or orange/yellow.
16 – Lilac purple. Same as the special edition dvd boxset.
Prowl 1701
August 25th, 2023 - 8:20pmActually, thinking about it, the color makes me think of the Tom baker intro that was used a couple times early in his run, where the intro is a more gold/sepia color instead of the usual silver. That actually matches up really well imo, the 13 boxset could have the opening credits tine vortex from the early part of his intro, also used in the closing credits, as opposed to the diamond part used for the season 12 boxset. Thinking on it, that would really make sense. So I’m thinking either 13 or 6.
Lee tends to use purple/magenta/violets in several boxsets also including sesson 24, 12, and 18, so I still think using the lilac color for 16 makes more sense than this color.
Basil Funkenstein
August 25th, 2023 - 8:41pmI agree Prowl. It doesn’t really strike me as a 6 colour, like I said I envisioned 6 being more dark blue or dark purple, but I do see this working if used as a sepia tone on 6. I’d be happy with that. It also works as a season 13 look but I’m shocked to think they’d do season 13 this early. I guess maybe they’re thinking that it’s a 60th anniversary year and it makes sense to release the most popular Tom season? Who knows..?
I’m just so ridiculously excited to find out what will be next. Whatever season it is I’ll be happy.
Prof Horner
August 25th, 2023 - 9:03pmWell I really hope it’s 6, with 13 a close second the best of the Tom Baker seasons. But I still think it will be 16. We will see.
Gordon
August 25th, 2023 - 11:59pmRichard bignell knows what it is and he hasn’t got a clue how lee has picked the colour scheme for it. So it might not be as obvious as it seems
Prowl 1701
August 26th, 2023 - 3:16amWell that’s true, Gordon. Sometimes the colors used on the boxset really fit, like the purple on season 9, but other times i don’t know where Lee came up with them from. Like the magenta and blue for season 20, i wouldn’t have thought of those colors for it, but it works so well with the art.
I could see it also for season 15 maybe as it makes me think a bit of the color of the Fendahl’s final form. If it’s for season 16 I will be unhappy as I really want the lilac color.
D84
August 26th, 2023 - 1:30pmRe S13 – surely Lee would go with Tom in his Highlands getup as the main image – with the colour theme revolving around that so greens and browns?
That’s what I would do, and would like to see
Prowl 1701
August 26th, 2023 - 6:01pmI hope he doesn’t use the highland outfit, I don’t care for it and Tom doesn’t wear it long in the story either. I’d rather have him in his pyramids outfit.
Pete X
August 26th, 2023 - 7:32pm@ Prowl1701
I think the magenta and blue of S20 comes from the Tardis time rotor – compare the box and photo on p.70 of DWM594.
Prof Horner
August 26th, 2023 - 9:33pmWell I would be disappointed if it turns out to be season 15 . For me it’s either 6 or 13 . 6 is the the one I want . My favourite Doctor and first season I remember. But if turns out to be 13 I will be equally pleased. As 13 is probably the greatest season of the seventies and arguably the from the greatest production team. It would be great way to finish this anniversary year. I agree with you D84 . The Doctor in his Highland gear from Terror of the zygons would look fantastic on the cover. All will be revealed very so I hope.
Mark Moxham
August 27th, 2023 - 10:31amIt’s going to be 25.
Another anniversary season – makes sense for 60th.
Way too early for 13.
Gordon
August 27th, 2023 - 1:00pmIt’s not going to be 25. Too soon for another 80s set. Anniversary year or not.
Chris chapman mentioned on twitter that he is currently planning a season overview and has at least 25 people he has on his wishlist. Too many people to be for season 1. Season 3 was covered in the last chance saloon documentary. The Troughton era was covered in second time around. The Pertwee era was covered in doctor who and the third man. Serial thrillers covers the Hinchcliffe era. A matter of time covers the Williams era. Come in number 5 and trials and tribulations pretty much covers season 21. Only really leaves season 25 which doesn’t have a season overview. Suspect it won’t be out till next year though as he’s planning to film it in September
DPHill
August 27th, 2023 - 1:01pmFor 16 Tom could be in the wig even tho it’s barely seen
I like the idea of 13 having his highland outfit on, it would be nice to see, I would be very surprised if it isn’t 16 but here’s hoping it is also magenta bright purple lilac tones and hues 🙂
The colours make me think it could be 25 as it is an anniversary year just didn’t think they would put two eighties next to each other given that leaves only 21, could do though
I don’t think we will get a Hartnell Troughton or obviously Davison or Pertwee, so makes me think
13, 15, 16, 25
Unless it is a complete curveball as it is brown for the mcgann tardis?
I’m genuinely happy with whatever set we are going to get!
James
August 27th, 2023 - 3:11pmDPHill: wouldn’t 8th Doc be part if the awilderness years set if its going ahead? Or maybe a massive curveball in that they will do his own set. Have the Movie, night and power of the doctor, shada, doctor who am I documentary, all the extras from the multiple releases of the movie, confidential thing for night of the doctor, behind the sofa with 7th and 8th docs, Eric and maybe the 2 companions, walkabout documentary in San fran with writer, director and 8th Doc.
If they do the wilderness set gonna be after all 26 seasons have been done so they can mop up any extras that haven’t been released on other sets.
daz
August 27th, 2023 - 5:11pmI still think Season 16 is next for a December release. Then 6 early next year.
D84
August 27th, 2023 - 9:38pmI think knowing we’ve had S14 present the Doctor in a 1 time outfit (Talons) then for S13 Tom in tartan doesn’t feel off the table
As the colours teased by Lee for the next set seem simple – it could be a muted palette for a B&W set – sounds like S6 may be the next B&W set people are expecting
Could be anything though – I’m in for them all anyway, hoping we see something before year is out
Sofia Fox
August 28th, 2023 - 12:08amI know we’re all speculating what season it could be, but my friend noticed that there were two months between Lee revealing the colours of the next Collection set and the announcement of that Collection set. Season 9’s colours were revealed in November 2022, announced January 2023. Season 20’s colours were revealed in May, revealed last month, and now we have the next season’s colours so it seems sure this next set will announced in October, presumably for a Christmas release.
Prowl 1701
August 28th, 2023 - 2:52amOr I could see it being announced in November and coming out in January. Which I would prefer to cut out it having to ship during Christmas season.
D84
August 28th, 2023 - 6:59amGood point Sofia, I had forgotten the timeline between Lee B teasing the colours and an announcement – thought it wasn’t as long as that
I would agree then it will likely be October at the earliest we see an announcement and this may come just before Christmas.
2 months from announcement to release seems to be the way recently
ThePrimordInfectant
August 28th, 2023 - 10:22amI find it so bizarre that people think season thirteen will be last. I mean like will Tom even be around 2028 when these sets stop releasing.
Matthew Sayes
August 28th, 2023 - 11:36amConvinced it’s 25.
At least then we’ll have all the greatest era of the show released on Collection.
DPHill
August 28th, 2023 - 4:25pmJames: yeah that’s what I meant but didn’t type, a wilderness one, would kind of expect that either in 2026 or right at the end though
All of those ideas sound great for a wilderness set, in fact that could have sooooo much on it!
D84: I know what you mean about muted pallet, I just didn’t think they would do two big sets in a row, 20 and then a 60s?! We shall see but I agree with the one time outfit thing though
Sofia: that’s a really interesting point, I think it, after a third time, will probably become a stable rule hereafter, let’s hope October!
Primord: I think it will be toms last possibly, but not overall, I personally think wilderness will be last – I think that sadly he may not be with us but they will have and are preparing stuff for it already, they would be able to tribute him properly whatever happens, no doubt if everything is released, the next set will feature a tribute to him, bless him, he is doing very well for 90 almost
Matthew: I’d love 25
D84
August 28th, 2023 - 6:28pm@DPHill hmmm indeed – I had not considered that angle (2 big sets together) it may not be S6 in that case
All things considered I think it will be a Tom set but also given the above consideration – it could indeed be S25 as that’s a shorter season to work on you’d think.
Only 4 stories – likely to have extended editions of all 4 (given how the other later sets have been handled) and a wealth of existing extras that don’t need that much clean up
Hmmm, I wonder – will it be “Unlimited Rice Pudding etc etc!!!!
Anon
August 28th, 2023 - 7:00pmTom looks quite gaunt and a little fragile but he may have a few good years left in him yet. I hope they have recorded a special scene with him in for the 60th and find room for carole anne ford.
Arnold yarrow, William Russell and ysanne churchman are still with us and are in their centenary and late 90s respectively.
DPHill
August 28th, 2023 - 8:58pmI should hope we get a tom, a troughton, then the last mcCoy for the next few sets
25 really ought to have a rcie pudding voucher or a whole disc devoted to rice pudding, should probably feature it on the back of the set with davros chasing after it!
Gordon
August 28th, 2023 - 9:39pmJust had a thought. Lee only revealed the teaser because it was his birthday. Might not be because the artwork is in the same position production wise as the season 20 teaser. Reading the dwm article about the making of the season 20 teaser and it was only recorded a month before reveal. I would say that would be more of a factor of it being revealed when it was than the artwork being teased on a certain date
Matthew Sayes
August 29th, 2023 - 9:49amWell it will be what it will be. It’s great to think that there may be three releases this year.
I’m way late to the party – still working my way through Season 2.
And surprised how much I like ‘The Romans’. Despite the poor episode endings, it’s a refreshing piece of work, totally unlike anything else that season, and nice to see WH’s Doctor in a more humorous light.
James
August 31st, 2023 - 1:58pm26 days until season 29 is arriving (hopefully). So less then 4 weeks for a new announcement or just over 4 If they wait until this one has been released.
Smugglers also awaiting a official announcement.
Hopefully highlanders gets done before season 4 collection is released. Unless they do it with 1 per season (highlanders s4, wheel s5 and pirates s6). If it does go this way we’ve had crusade for s2 and s1 be Marco polo (be shame as 1st season).
But which 1 for s3. If rumours true about toymaker that would leave myth, massacre and savages all 4eps, mission could use uni version, and DMP with 9 eps.
Which 1 would be left out? (Hopefully they animate the 3 and maybe just animate the missing 9 from DMP, unless they remake it like Uni did woth mission? There’s hope)
D84
August 31st, 2023 - 2:57pmI think i would be happy with 1 Telesnap reconstruction for Season 6 (Pirates) and Season 4 (Highlanders) but for S5 – Wheel is a guilty pleasure of mine – would love to see that animated – seems such a perfect fit of a story to be animated is all.
Not heard anything re Smugglers animation at this point but UWM turned out to be true to am hopeful that one will too
I think Season 3 will be near the end of the run – if not the last one to come out, bar a potential wilderness years set – which i can see them leaving until also towards the end to mop up any bits and bobs displaced from DVD’s with no other natural home – or to include anything that may be un earthed over the next couple of years.
Over the next half a dozen sets i can imagine we’ll get some of (basing this on nothing other than my own wants and thoughts) S1, S6, S15, S16, S21, S25.
S3 clearly needs alot of work – and potentially animations to fill in lots of gaps
S4 – Still 1 more animation to confirm and release individually (plus UWM) to make a viable product with 1 story represented by stills
S5 – potentially viable now but i can see them holding out for animation on Wheel – they already did a 10 minute teaser
S7 i expect needs alot of colour restoration work
S11 as above
S13 i can see them holding back just because its a good one
Prof Horner
August 31st, 2023 - 9:08pmI still think season 5 will be the only sixties season to be complete for Boxset. If Wheel in Space is animated next year or early the following year. Then season 5 could be released complete in 2026.
I think your reasoning is sound D84 regarding the up coming release schedule. I hope 6 is next after 20 . But 13 , 16 or even 15 will be great. Only just over two weeks to go for 20!
DPHill
September 1st, 2023 - 1:34amGordon – you could be right about it not following the same as the last two, and i do think the artwork has a lot of work already ready for whenever one is close to the surface of release – i remember Lee saying he has done a lot of editing for a set he knows won’t even be out for a three or four years at least
it would be really nice to get a smugglers announcement soon! i am not sure if highlanders will be done in time, i feel eventually it will get done in time, but that is probably low down given they may continue like with s2 and have one story a season not fully animated – although if there are no episodes from the story, I really do not know how this will be easily represented in terms of content other than the obvious telesnaps stuff
I feel like s5 may get wheel cos it has not only a companion introduction but the cybermen too! would eb a shame if marco polo was not animated or dare i say anything recovered from it such that s1 remains with seven big gaps in it
i would be happy with one missing per season if it helped, but also, I would, if they got momentum again, just start with the modern run to give more time – i know things don’t work so easily and cohesively as that though
DPHill
September 1st, 2023 - 1:44amD84, i really agree on you for s5, as it is a guilty pleasure of mine, feels like they are not gonna get everything animated in time, but I have hope we may get lucky for one maybe even two seasons – this seems most likely!
season 4 is becoming ever more viable, and season 6 already is
for special features contributors, i know they don’t necessarily need people to be alive – but it sure helps and is nice for us fans, s7 and s11 i guess they will use John Levene and Katy Manning despite neither having Katy – she is always so interesting and keen on anything Pertwee, and Benton was in them, he is the only one more able to do them – unless we are lucky enough that they did a richard franklin in conversation with a few years back for s11 – hope we get one for Benton on s7
s4-6 has the wonderful frazer hines, who i cannot wait to see more of again on the sets as he has been a lil more absent than I like, also anneke and wendy would be great to see again as they both seem to have a great energy!
s3 personally, not Purves’s greatest fan but he is always keen, and I guess there are still a number of behind the scenes people (richard martin and waris hussein) and also Carole for season 1
I feel like s13 is the most difficult set for involving the old members, only hinchcliffe, a very old tom, john levene, and a very old gabriel woolf are still around – dont think any writers or directors from this season are alive anymore sadly
how do you think they will work around this? i know they have the main features and all of the special feaures, but for new features other than behind the sofa?
Prowl 1701
September 1st, 2023 - 2:51amI hope they animate wheel. I figure it would sell well, it’s a cybermen story and it introduces Zoey. Even if it’s not the most popular storywise.
James
September 1st, 2023 - 7:45amIf wheel gets animated because it’s zoes introduction ep. Then highlanders has to also as its Jamie’s introduction.
Unless they only animate eps that they know do not exist. And the ones they know are in private hands they can someomhow come to arrnagentns with the holders.
D84
September 1st, 2023 - 4:08pmI can see more ease in animating Wheel as it’s a base under siege story and a limited cast of characters – plus v little tartan to animate.
That seems to have been defining factors on previous animations so to me it still fits that bill.
Now Highlanders with various backdrops, characters etc and the obvious “flowing tartan” in the wind – very tricky
Bobby Fackrell
September 10th, 2023 - 9:54amD84 there are no telesnapes for Space Pirates
Prof Horner
August 24th, 2023 - 12:02pmWell I have just got my copy of DWM 594 in my local Morrisons. Just read the preview of season 20 blu ray. It has only just struck me how all the extras on this Boxset will be new to me. As apart from The original Five Doctors DVD, which has no extras on it. I don’t have any the stories from this season on DVD. Apart from the fact I looking forward to watching these stories I haven’t seen in very long time. It will probably take till ( hopefully in December) the next season Boxset to get through all the wonderful extras. The only question is which version of The Five Doctors will I watch first?
Anon
August 24th, 2023 - 12:11pmIm going with the original 4 parter first as i havent seen that since the original transmission back in the eighties.
Anon
August 24th, 2023 - 12:15pmIt went out not long after the original unabridged version.
Prof Horner
August 24th, 2023 - 1:20pmYes in the summer of 1984 . As I remember rightly they showed The Awakening as well. It was the last time they showed repeats on BBC 1 until Planet of the Daleks in 1993.
Anon
August 24th, 2023 - 3:00pmThey repeated The Kings Demons as well. I missed it first time but watched and recorded it on a BASF audio 90 tape. We didnt even have a VCR until about late 84-early 85. So just taped near the Tv. Everyone had to be totally silent as i was recording. Ha, ha. The onl6 problem on some were the continuity announcements on some at the end. Announcing of all things Jimll fix it. So edited those out afterwards.
Prof Horner
August 24th, 2023 - 3:28pmYes I remember. I got my first VCR in 1983. For many years I had a recording of The Five Doctors with a Terry wogan introduction !
ex15
August 24th, 2023 - 5:40pmI’m watching Disc 8 first!
Matt L
August 24th, 2023 - 7:56pmWith lee binding’s latest tweet about the next box set, which dr who season does everyone think is next?
Anon
August 24th, 2023 - 8:23pmMany seem to think season 16. If thats the case i just hope they update The pirate planet and The Power of Kroll CG. One of my all time favourite seasons and i adore Mary Tamm.
Bobby Fackrell
August 24th, 2023 - 9:42pmDo the disks chronologically Prof save the headaches
Bobby Fackrell
August 24th, 2023 - 9:45pmIf you think the extras are impressive on 20 Prof wait until 25 comes out in December it will blow you away
Happiness Will Prevail
Gordon
August 24th, 2023 - 9:52pmI’ll probably watch in order as per usual. As for lee binding’s tweet it has got a similar sort of colour as the scene with the white guardian from ribos so I’m guessing 16
Ian zygon
August 24th, 2023 - 10:10pmThink the four part version of the five doctors is only the opening and closing titles plus the cliffhangers. Not the full version ?
D84
August 24th, 2023 - 10:15pmIt wasn’t all that long when Lee was teasing the colours for the “next set” last time before it was confirmed and details put out etc for S20 was it?
As people have been hoping – seems like we may see an announcement in a month or so with hopefully a release just before Christmas.
Keep everything crossed people
Anon
August 25th, 2023 - 8:43amNow you mention that Ian the Zygon, i was just wondering if it might be the full 4 part version as it would have stated. It would be a shame if it it wasnt . I prefer it as an alternative.
Anon
August 25th, 2023 - 8:46amIts just i remember where all the cliffhangers were, if youd call them cliffhangers?
Anon
August 28th, 2023 - 10:57amSarah janes trip, the cybermen set up the bomb outside the TARDIS and the master follows behind an unconcerned doctor and brigadier from the shadows to the Tomb.
daz
August 21st, 2023 - 5:08pmWould anyone like to see modern Doctors who were classic fans growing up do behind the sofa or at least appear on some of these collections?
I’d love Peter Capaldi on some 60’s sets and David Tennant on some 70’s and even Season 21. Maybe on behind the sofa?
I even liked seeing Moffat and Gatis on that documentary a while back (not sure of Season). Get them back on along with RTD as we are running out of sets now.
I’d rather these than the usual Davison group slagging off older classic who as it’s not like theirs.
Bobby Fackrell
August 21st, 2023 - 10:08pmI think most people would, we have had some of the Whittaker writers on it that was refreshing
Id love to see Eccleston and Whittaker, I thought they might be busy or expensive at first but they do put in the Big Finish shifts so it’s possible
Prowl 1701
August 21st, 2023 - 10:27pmWould love to see some modern doctors on behind the sofa, even Chris now that he is more willing to do doctor who stuff.
Rory
August 24th, 2023 - 4:50pmGet Tennant, the Colin Baker, and Davison on S21.
Fried gold.
Bobby Fackrell
August 20th, 2023 - 9:46amHappy 80th Sylvester McCoy
Happiness will Prevail ❤️
Prof Horner
August 20th, 2023 - 10:05amHappy Birthday to Sylvester! He shares his birthday with Sophie Aldred , the late Anthony Ainley and my dear brother Dave!
Bobby Fackrell
August 20th, 2023 - 1:06pmI never realised the Master shared a birthday with them as well
Tom Williams
August 25th, 2023 - 8:36pmI’m extremely lucky as I share the same day as all three off them lol reason why I loved the 7th doctor
Bobby Fackrell
August 26th, 2023 - 8:03amProf loves the 7th Doctor too
Bobby Fackrell
August 19th, 2023 - 6:34amWhen series 25 does come out will we get unlimited rice pudding with it?
Happiness will Prevail
Gordon
August 17th, 2023 - 8:38amHaving seen the full disc breakdown all I can say it’s bloody massive. In terms of size it probably is the biggest set yet. Five doctors and it’s special features takes up 3 discs alone plus some of the extras from kings demons is also five doctors related. I see the messages from space feature filmed at jodrel bank from that free doctor who magazine dvd a few years back has found a home on one of the five doctors discs. Doesn’t really fit there being honest but it’s nice for people who missed it to finally be able to see it.
DPHill
August 17th, 2023 - 2:58pmWill you be posting the breakdown here like you often have done?
Prowl 1701
August 17th, 2023 - 5:05pmYeah hoping for a disc breakdown if you get time, Gordon.
DPHill
August 17th, 2023 - 5:23pmYes to add to that, they are so lengthy, and this one will take the biscuit, if you get time! But thanks for all the others!
Jake E
August 17th, 2023 - 7:13pmAll the pages are leaked on Twitter
Gordon
August 17th, 2023 - 8:51pmDisc One Arc of Infinity
Four episodes, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Sarah Sutton, Janet Fielding and Colin Baker
• Anti-Matter from Amsterdam -making-of documentary
• Optional isolated score
• Optional CGI special effects
• Deleted scenes
• The Omega Factor
• Under Arc Lights
• Russell Harty’s Christmas Party excerpt with Peter Davison, broadcast
21 December 1982
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa – with Peter Davison, Sarah Sutton, Janet Fielding and Mark Strickson; Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy; Katy Manning and Sophie Aldred (the same contributors appear on all episodes of Behind the Sofa in this box set)
• Studio footage
• Ron Jones interview
• Saturday Superstore excerpt with Peter Davison, broadcast 20 November 1982
• Saturday Superstore excerpt with Bonnie Langford, broadcast 27 November 1982
• Peter Davison on the set of Captain Zep
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Four rehearsal scripts, four camera scripts and four transmission scripts
• Recording schedule
• Dee Robson’s costume designs
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Two Snakedance
Four episodes, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Sarah Sutton and Janet Fielding
• Snake Charmer- making-of documentary
• Optional isolated score
• Deleted scenes
• Christopher Bailey interview (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• Coming Soon: The Black Guardian Trilogy
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• Optional 5.1 sound mix
• Optional CGI special effects for Part Four
• When Janet Met Martin
• Studio footage
• Ealing film footage
• The Passenger – the trailer for The Collection: Season 20
• The Passenger making-of featurette
• Sarah Sutton and Matthew Waterhouse at the 50th anniversary Celebration event in November 2013
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Four rehearsal scripts, four camera scripts and four transmission scripts
• Recording schedule
• Ken Trew’s costume designs
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Three Mawdryn Undead
Four episodes, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Mark Strickson, Nicholas Courtney and Eric Saward
• Who Wants to Live Forever? -making-of documentary
• Optional isolated score
• Optional CGI special effects
• Film trims
• Outtakes
• Deleted and extended scenes
• Liberty Hall
• Finding Mark Strickson (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• TARDIS information system (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• VT countdown clocks (previously a DVD Easter egg)
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• Once Upon a Time Lord – contemporary US documentary
• Points of View excerpt, broadcast 11 February 1983
• Sarah Sutton and Mark Strickson at Monstercon 2 on 1 November 1986
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Four rehearsal scripts, four camera scripts and four transmission scripts
• Recording schedule
• Studio floor plans
• Design drawings
• Amy Roberts’ costume designs
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Four Terminus
Four episodes, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Sarah Sutton, Mark Strickson and Stephen Gallagher
• Breaking Point – making-of documentary
• Optional isolated score
• Optional CGI special effects
• Finding Sarah Sutton
• Origins of the Universe
• Original storyboards
• Unused model shots
• TARDIS information system (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• VT countdown clocks (previously a DVD Easter egg)
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• In Conversation – Sarah Sutton and Janet Fielding talk to Matthew Sweet
• Radio WM interview with Sarah Sutton, broadcast 21 September 1984
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Four editing scripts, four rehearsal scripts, four camera scripts and four transmission scripts
• Stephen Gallagher’s notes on Terminus
• Recording schedule
• Studio floor plans
• Design drawings
• Dee Robson’s costume designs
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Five Enlightenment
Four episodes, restored in HD:
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Mark Strickson, Barbara Clegg and Fiona Cumming
• Winner Takes All- making-of documentary
• Optional isolated score
• Casting Off
• Single White Female
• The Story of the Guardians
• Original storyboards
• Enlightenment -2009 Special Edition
• Re-Enlightenment
• Original edit comparisons between broadcast version and Special Edition
• Janet’s Boob Tube (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• TARDIS information system (previously a DVD Easter egg)
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• Optional CGI special effects
• Visual effects
• Film trims
• Breakfast Time interview with Peter Davison and Patrick Troughton, broadcast 1 March 1983 (extended from DVD edit)
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Four editing scripts, four rehearsal scripts, four camera scripts and four transmission scripts
• Recording schedule
• Studio floor plans
• Design drawings
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Six The King’s Demons
Two episodes, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison,
Isla Blair and Eric Saward
• Audio commentary with Tony Virgo on Part One
• Optional isolated score
• Kamelion – Metal Man
• Magna Carta
• Nationwide excerpt with Peter Davison,
Jon Pertwee and Patrick Troughton, broadcast 18 March 1983
• One o’clock News report on Peter Davison’s departure, broadcast 28 July 1983
• Nine o’clock News report on Peter Davison’s departure, broadcast
28 July 1983
• South East at Six excerpt with Peter Davison and John Nathan-Turner, broadcast 29 July 1983
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• Back to Bodiam – making-of documentary
• Panels from the 3-4 April 1983 Longleat event, with Carole Ann Ford, Nicholas Courtney, Heather Hartnell and Anne Hartnell; Patrick Troughton and John Nathan-Turner; Jon Pertwee, Nicholas Courtney and Richard Franklin; Jon Pertwee solo panel; Tom Baker and John Leeson; Peter Davison, Sarah Sutton,
Janet Fielding and Mark Strickson
• Doctor Who Celebration:
20 Years of a Time Lord
• Points of View, broadcast 25 March 1983
• Saturday Superstore excerpt with Peter Davison, Mark Strickson and Janet Fielding, broadcast 26 March 1983
(extended from DVD edit)
• Radio interview with Gerald Flood, broadcast 26 March 1983
• Nationwide excerpt on the 25th anniversary of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, broadcast 30 March 1983
• BBC News report on the Longleat event, broadcast 3 April 1983
• Ed Stewart’s Radio 2 show excerpts, broadcast from Longleat on 4 April 1983
• Swap Shop Star Awards excerpt with Peter Davison, broadcast 11 April 1983
• Janet Fielding at an Australian convention on 29 May 1983
• Breakfast Time excerpt with Nicola Bryant, broadcast 6 July 1983
• South East at Six report on US conventions, broadcast 19 July 1983
• John Craven’s Newsround report on Peter Davison’s departure, broadcast 28 July 1983
• Breakfast Time excerpt with Peter Davison and Sandra Dickinson, 3 August 1983
• BBC Radio Sheffield report on the Blackpool Doctor Who exhibition, August 1983
• Six o’clock News report on Colin Baker’s casting as the Doctor, 19 August 1983
• Breakfast Time excerpt with Colin Baker, broadcast 22 August 1983
• 20th-anniversary photo gallery in HD
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Two rehearsal scripts and two camera scripts
• Studio floor plans
• Design drawings
• Doctor Who Celebration at Longleat
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Seven The Five Doctors
Broadcast version, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Nicholas Courtney, Carole Ann Ford, Elisabeth Sladen and Mark Strickson
• Audio commentary with David Tennant Phil Collinson and Helen Raynor (previously a DVD Easter egg)
• Celebration – making-of documentar
• Optional isolated score
• Outtakes
• Five Doctors, One Studio
• (Not So) Special Effects
• The Ties That Bind Us
• Blue Peter excerpt with Peter Davisor and Richard Hurndall, broadcast 21 November 1983
• BBC Video ident (previously a DVD Easter egg)
New Special Features:
• Behind the Sofa
• Optional 5.1 sound mix
• Optional Dolby Atmos sound mix
• Opening titles, Cliffhangers and closing credits from the four-part version of The Five Doctors
• Saturday Superstore excerpt promoting The Five Doctors, broadcast 19 November 1983
• The Late, Late Breakfast Show excerpt featuring a Dalek, broadcast 19 November 1983
• Pebble Mill at One excerpt promoting The Five Doctors, broadcast 21 November 1983
• BBC2 closedown photo montage, broadcast 23 November 1983
• Breakfast Time excerpt promoting The Five Doctors, broadcast 25 November 1983
• Children in Need excerpt featuring the Fifth Doctor and Terry Wogan, broadcast 25 November 1983
• BBC News report on the 1983 Chicago convention, broadcast 28 November 1983
• BBC Radio London interview with John Nathan-Turner, broadcast November 1983
• Saturday Superstore excerpt, broadcast 17 December 1983
• Breakfast Time excerpt promoting the repeat of The Five Doctors, broadcast 14 August 1984
• Trails and continuity
• Revised and updated production subtitles
• Photo gallery in HD
PDFs:
• Production paperwork
• Two rehearsal scripts and one camera script
• Design drawings
• Radio Times cuttings
Disc Eight The Five Doctors
40th-anniversary Edition, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Coming Soon: The Five Doctors -Special Edition
New Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison, Janet Fielding and Mark Strickson
• CGI special effects
• A choice of three sound mixes: stereo, 5.1 or Dolby Atmos
• Messages from Space
• Film rushes
• Studio footage from 29, 30 and 31 March 1983
• Peter Davison and Sandra Dickinson at an Australian convention on 10 April 1983
• The Panopticon Archive: Four Doctors -a convention panel with Jon Pertwee, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy, recorded on 5 September 1993
Disc Nine The Five Doctors
1995 Special Edition, restored in HD
Existing Special Features:
• Audio commentary with Peter Davison and Terrance Dicks
• A choice of two sound mixes:
Dolby Surround (stereo) or 5.1 • Optional isolated score
• Production subtitles
New Special Features:
• Look Who’s Driving
• Let’s Go Dutch
PDFs:
• Doctor Who Annual 1984
• Radio Times 20th-anniversary special and promo
• Doctor Who Production Flandbook
• BBC Enterprises Season 20 sales sheets
• Programme as Broadcast information for Season 20
Rex F
August 17th, 2023 - 11:03pmThanks, Gordon.
Prowl 1701
August 18th, 2023 - 1:40amYou’re a miracle worker, Gordon, many thanks. I’m surprised Enlightenment is only one disc as it has three versions of the story on it and a slew of extras. So the only updated effect for snakedance is the snake at the end, like kinda?
Gordon
August 18th, 2023 - 4:42amTechnically enlightenment is only 2 versions as its new cgi effects are done by branching.
I assume snakedance is like kinda with it just the snake updated
Auton
August 18th, 2023 - 7:13amWow, this looks good. Tons of new broadcast extras on king’s demons and the five doctors, this is going to be an amazing set. It’s a bit weird that let’s go Dutch is on the final five doctors disc rather than arc of Infinity but maybe they reference the look who’s driving so had to put them together. Plus interesting why there is a Bonnie Langford Saturday superstore on arc of Infinity when it’s way before her involvement in who. It’s going to be difficult to decide what to watch first, so many new features I’m looking forward to. Thank you Gordon for posting this
Duncan
August 19th, 2023 - 9:46pmNice !!!!! Looking forward to getting my hands on this. As a Nyssa/Sarah Sutton fan, I’m very happy!
DanielM
August 20th, 2023 - 4:36am@Auton Let’s Go Dutch has the Cast reminisce about Season 20 and their time on the programme as well as visiting Amsterdam filming Locations so makes sense for it to go on the last Disk.
DPHill
August 21st, 2023 - 11:18pmThank you so much Gordon! Excellent set coming up, didnt like season 20 overall that much, but every time these sets come out with all these extras it’s a great time for re evaluation! Such a wonderfully packed set that I am really looking forward to! Especially as the five doctors was my first episode back in 2003! Love it
SV7
August 22nd, 2023 - 9:25pmSo does the broadcast version of Enlightenment have an optional 5.1 sound mix or just on the special edition?
Gordon
August 24th, 2023 - 9:54pmThink it’s just the special edition as mark said he didn’t have time
MJS
August 25th, 2023 - 9:27pmAm I missing something but I’m sure the set doesn’t mention it has the 4 part version only opening and cliffhangers?
Jake E
August 16th, 2023 - 2:23pmNew release date September 18th confirmed!
Jake E
August 16th, 2023 - 3:52pmRichard Bignell has said “Going through the test discs a couple of weeks ago, it took me around nine hours to get through all the VAM on the King’s Demons disc”.
Prof Horner
August 16th, 2023 - 8:38pmMy Amazon account says 18 th September too. Four weeks Monday.
David
August 16th, 2023 - 8:44pmSeptember 23
Omega
August 16th, 2023 - 9:58pmShould be a good birthday for me! Looking forward to this release
D84
August 17th, 2023 - 9:59amMy Amazon pre order has updated to say “Arriving 23-25 September” which is quite usual – but the actual release date also shoes to me as 18th Sept so I expect mine will land on the doormat that afternoon with the delivery date on the Amazon order miraculously changing that prior weekend
booboo
August 17th, 2023 - 12:05pmAmazon have been doing this for a while i think to allow for postal delays etc but most get it on release date
Pete X
August 17th, 2023 - 11:55amHad an email from HMV giving the release date as 18th September.
Anon
August 17th, 2023 - 12:23pmSame here. Or before 18th.
D84
August 17th, 2023 - 1:04pm@Booboo yea that’s been happening to me for a while – past half a dozen releases at least. the order will state around a week after the release date – but then that weekend things change and it arrives in the afternoon of the actual release day Monday.
I don’t think I’ve had any DW pre order item come early since possibly The Faceless Ones Steel book – maybe Fury, but its as far back as that.
Everything these days tends to arrive on the day of release
Prof Horner
August 17th, 2023 - 2:34pmYes mine account says release date 18 th of September, the email i got yesterday evening says arriving the 25 th .
Rory
August 17th, 2023 - 2:37pm@D84, lucky you. I’ve pre-ordered every Collection and Steelbook, and haven’t had one arrive on release date in at least two years.
Bobby Fackrell
August 16th, 2023 - 12:17pmI’m on series 16 on my complete run now; got to say best of The Williams years by far, and I think the best Tom series after the Hinchcliffe Holmes era
Great chemistry with Tom, Mary and K9 – Tom starting to go a little over the top but nowhere near series 17 levels it’s still a brilliant performance. The stories are great fun even Kroll and Armageddon factor are decent. It’s got some hilarious lines it throughout, it’s fun, exciting and absorbing all the way and it has aged well
If it is next as many predict I welcome it, although I would prefer 25 as that would help me out with the chronology of my run if it comes out at Christmas
D84
August 16th, 2023 - 2:00pmDo we have any specific leads as to why we think S16 may be next?
James
August 16th, 2023 - 4:28pmD84 haven’t had a Tom set for 2 years (17 in December 2021). Can’t nit have anniversary year without a tom set..madness
Bobby Fackrell
August 16th, 2023 - 6:41pmNo then…
Bobby Fackrell
August 16th, 2023 - 9:52pmMind you D84 I don’t think 16 will be next I think 25 will be but I too have no significant leads
Anonymous
August 16th, 2023 - 10:05pmSomebody (Most likely Gordon) posted on here that they had been filming something for Stones of Blood recently.
D84
August 16th, 2023 - 11:22pmHmmmm, indeed Bobby.
I can see the login in suspicion, it is 2yrs since we had a Tom set – so you can see one of them being next as still 3 to go. But in the same vein, we do not yet have a Troughton set – and 3 to go on those, although all more problematic than any of Tom’s. We had a Bill set late last year so unlikely to see S1 soon – plus i cant see S3 coming anytime soon either, likely at the very end if not the last “Collection” to come out surely,
Jon and Pete’s had a set this year so unlikely to be them again. Slyv – 1 left, and its a good one (steady everyone – we all have different tastes) – might keep that back a bit.
So yes would lead us to a Tom set i agree, but after the delays we’ve had a last year’s “2 sets” – are we confident the pattern and pace has picked up enough to bring us back to 3 sets within a calendar year?
Bobby Fackrell
August 17th, 2023 - 7:49amYes but something being filmed for Stones of Blood and not having a Tom set for two years are not specific leads they are educated guesses. No one knows what is following 20 for sure but there are a handful of strong possibilities and 16 is among them
Anonymous
August 17th, 2023 - 8:15amExactly. That’s why Season 16 is ‘predicted’ to be next. Nobody but the team working on these sets knows for sure (if even they do).
Prof Horner
August 17th, 2023 - 8:49amI certainly not against season 25 coming out. Just let’s have a another Tom and specially the first Pat. Let’s hope we don’t have to wait six months after season 20 for 16 or whatever, as has been the case between 9 and 20.
Gordon
August 17th, 2023 - 9:44amApparently they did filmed something at the stones of blood location back in December of last year however I never really heard anything more than that. Mind you I think they are at the stage with the amount of content they are banking and seem to have built up that they could be working on things years off that no season is off the table at this point. Chris chapman has stuff filmed that won’t see the light of day till 2025. The range only has about 4 years left. Back in 2018 they filmed a William Russell interview that didn’t get released till December 2022. Safe to say that it’s possible they are doing filming for pretty much any of the remaining seasons. Even ones not due till 2027. Even if they don’t know when something is out or in order of release when they film something I’m sure they know or can figure out what is the next 1 or 2 sets are especially if they have deadlines to do hand in. Toby hadoke recently filmed something and he didn’t even know what season it was for or when it’s out. He also said on a recent podcast that he knows what is the next set is because he’s in it but he said it wasn’t connected to anything he filmed recently
D84
August 17th, 2023 - 1:12pmHmmm, all very good points gentleman
Wait and see i guess
I would love a 3rd set this year, and if there is to be one i can see it sneaking out right before Christmas just like S17 did (i think it was 17)
Bobby Fackrell
August 18th, 2023 - 6:17amThe randomiser is a cope out surely if the Black Guardian can track the TARDIS he can do with with or without knowing the coordinators, just a very short lived reason to try and go back to the glory days when they didn’t know where they were going which is ironic because series 17 is mostly rubbish
Gordon
August 16th, 2023 - 7:57amFull Disc breakdown reveal for season 20 in the new issue of dwm.
Jake E
August 16th, 2023 - 8:07amDoes it say how much studio or location footage there is per story?
Prof Horner
August 16th, 2023 - 9:26amHopefully a release date as well.
D84
August 16th, 2023 - 9:45amDon’t we usually see the content breakdown in the DWM edition the month before release?
I am hopeful this comes out Sept 18th as leaked
James
August 16th, 2023 - 12:08pmSfx says September release. Full list in dwm confirms release for next month. Maybe September/October fo4 season 16 announcement/preorder.
Jason
August 16th, 2023 - 2:05pmJust got an Amazon email update – 23rd September 2023 release!
Jake E
August 16th, 2023 - 2:23pm18th September!
James
August 13th, 2023 - 3:07pmStill no word of the mystery story being coloured for transmission. Guessing as 60th year its got to be An Unearthly Child. So we’ll have the 3 story 60th box set, possibley AUC and even maybe either another Collection set or preorder for next one by Xmas.
Gordon
August 13th, 2023 - 3:23pmIf it is happening and it’s being broadcast I suspect we won’t know till September/October time. Too early to start promoting that now
James
August 11th, 2023 - 10:49amThis months SFX magazine saying released in September. This would give us a chance for at least a preorder for this year for late December/mid January release maybe.
Matt L
August 11th, 2023 - 4:10pmDo you think the next box set will be season 15 or 16, then season 6 in 2024?
James
August 11th, 2023 - 4:56pmI’d say season 16 as its more of a proper season 1 big story arc for a big anniversary year. 15 just odd stories. Then a Troughton one early 2024. Unless their secretly animated wheel of pirates going to be recon for those seasons. Shame as possible be the only 2 for Troughton not to be animated. (if they do do highlanders, if not be 1 on each season not fully visual). Won’t be 4 as UWM being released in November so be 2025 I guess for season 4.
Pete X
August 11th, 2023 - 5:09pm@James
I’d much prefer they animated Space in Space than Wheel of Pirates 😉
With today’s announcement of Underwater Menace I think Wheel in Space is very likely to be animated, there being more visual and acting reference to go on than the Highlanders or Space Pirates.
Prowl 1701
August 11th, 2023 - 9:10pmSpace pirates could really benifit from animation, especially if they took some liberties like with Macra terror. The target novel of space pirates is actually a good read.
Prof Horner
August 11th, 2023 - 9:34pm@Pete X
I would think The Wheel in Space is almost a certainty. It is the last Cybermen story not to be released. I should say we may see it animated next year. Giving it couple of years to stand alone before season 5 is released on blu ray box set. Probably in 2026.
Gordon
August 12th, 2023 - 9:14amI think space pirates will get done but it will be a couple of years after the season 6 release. Just think the likes of the smugglers, toymaker, wheel, the savages, highlanders (if they can figure it out) and perhaps myth makers are probably in front of the que
Prof Horner
August 12th, 2023 - 10:06amAgreed Gordon. I think The Smugglers and The Wheel in Space will probably done first. After that they will consecrate on season 3 stories.
Anonymous
August 12th, 2023 - 12:55pmPete it meant to s
Type wheel OR pirates
James
August 12th, 2023 - 12:55pmPete x. It meant to type wheel OR pirates
James
August 12th, 2023 - 1:59pmProf..with 21 episodes still missing/not in bbc hands, would they do all the work, animate and restore it for The Collection Season 3 release first then as standalone stories a few years later? Not counting mission as the uni remade version could be used instead of animating as it be would have more money to spend on animating the other stories and just add the audio as an extra to the set. Or maybe use them and redo dmp to the same standard as its a huge story.
Gordon
August 12th, 2023 - 3:13pm@james the budget for the collection sets are tiny compared to the animation budgets. The budget simply isn’t there to animate stories in the collection range. Any animations would need to be released separately first on its own to recoup costs long before it appears in the collection sets. Most likely telesnap reconstructions where required will fill in the non animated gaps
James
August 12th, 2023 - 3:30pmGordon..seems a shame not to animate the missing gaps so then this is the definitive collection with all eps represented fully visually in a set.
Gordon
August 12th, 2023 - 8:27pmProblem is they can’t be included if they don’t already exist. If the definitive version of the episode that is a telesnap version then that is the version that will be included. Sucks but there are no guarantees that everything will be animated for the collection range. I mean season 2 is already out and crusade hasn’t been animated. The collection range has 4 years left. There are still 11 stories that need animated. Some stories (masterplan/Marco polo) will take 2 years min to do. They won’t all get done in that time frame.
Prowl 1701
August 12th, 2023 - 10:15pmDon’t think we will see season 3 or 4 in the collection range for a long while, there is time to animate stories from them and release them separately first. I figure the next 60’s set will be 6.
Gordon
August 13th, 2023 - 1:27amI’d guess at 2026 prowl
Gordon
August 13th, 2023 - 1:29amFor season 4
Bobby Fackrell
August 13th, 2023 - 8:09am25 is next ..
Happiness will Prevail
Prof Horner
August 13th, 2023 - 8:51amI think season 6 will be next sixties season.(before 25 Bobby!) Season 1in 2025 . Then season 5 in 26 , 4 in 27 and finally 28. Giving time to animate most of season 3. I kind of hope someone is working on Daleks masterplan right now,in time to release it in November 2025 , in for its 60th anniversary. Interestingly The Savages may miss out on animation,I think as I think it is the only story with a complete set of tele snaps. From that season. Although I think it will be animated.So they could release season 3 with all other missing stories animated except that one. In the end I think only season 5 will be only sixties season released as complete season on Boxset. as Gordon says James there won’t be any animations exclusively for Boxset. An interesting few years I think.
Bobby Fackrell
August 13th, 2023 - 9:04amBut Prof this is about a potential final release this year maybe December which would make 25 a much more likely contender as it’s much shorter, especially with 20 being such a big box set, 6 will be huge, 25 is also an anniversary year
Personally I’m not sure there will be another this year after 20. 25, 6 and 16 do seem to be in the mixer though
Auton
August 13th, 2023 - 10:08amSeason 16 is almost certainly next, season 25, while only being 4 stories, will still be a huge box set due to it being an 80s set and packed fully of surviving studio, location and broadcast footage and new extended versions of all the stories. Season 16 has less so despite having more stories will be quicker to release making it perfect for the end of this year
Pete X
August 13th, 2023 - 11:37amThere have been nine* full story animations in the seven years between the release of Power of the Daleks in 2016 and the likely release of Underwater Menace this year.
Despite the loss of funding in 2021(?) there have been either one or two full animated releases every year except 2018.
There are eleven** missing episode stories remaining that could be animated if resources are available. On the release rates so far it will take six to ten years to complete the remaining animations.
If all eleven stories are animated, then the last of them will most likely be completed after the release of the Seasons 1, 3-6 box sets and who knows if they will have physical releases in a decades time.
(*including Shada,
**or twelve depending on whether you consider Mission to the Unknown and Dalek Masterplan as two stories or as a two release equivalent based on episode count)
@ Prof Horner, Yes I agree WiS will be animated (and before SP), it’s a question of when. With the Smugglers and Celestial Toymaker animations rumoured to be in the works, I’m thinking there may be a run of Hartnell stories released before another Troughton.
Prowl 1701
August 13th, 2023 - 4:34pmI figure season 4 will be one of the last sets, giving them time to do smugglers and many e highlanders, if possible. 2026 would be fine
Duncan
August 17th, 2023 - 7:40pmI want Season 13
Please 🙂
Bobby Fackrell
August 19th, 2023 - 9:42amMany say 13 ‘will be left until the end’ but it’s total speculation, there’s some rumours supporting 16 being next but until someone produces some strong evidence otherwise for me 13 is just as likely as to come out next as 15 or 16
James
August 19th, 2023 - 10:53amWould make sense to finish on a Tom set as that’s how it started. I’d say season 3 be Penultimate as so much work to do on it. Either animate all missing eps by 1 story if they going to just recon 1 per season. OR maybe just fill in the gaps with animation and brush up the episodes that exist. Then finish on Tom. If they haven’t already release the rumoured Wilderness Set.
Gordon
August 19th, 2023 - 2:11pmFor season 3 it will be whatever has been animated by the time they get round to it in 2027. If it’s all animated it will be released complete. If it’s1 2 3 4 or even 5 stories left then the remaining gaps will be filled by recons. Hard to really see how many of the animations will get done for season 3 at this time as we don’t know yet how many animation teams are working on these new animations and we don’t know which ones will get worked on for the animation range in the next few years.
Jake E
August 10th, 2023 - 1:21pmApparently Ian Levine has confirmed he’s animating The Massacre!
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 1:49pmAs a fan project. Going by all his previous projects he’s done unlikely to get an official release. Only way to see it will be to help him finance it (he was looking for donations of £100 minimum a few weeks back) or if it ever gets leaked
The Comedian
August 10th, 2023 - 1:53pmWhat, with those hands?
Anonymous
August 10th, 2023 - 4:58pmIt looks like they’re trying to emulate the Planet 55 animation style.
Jake E
August 10th, 2023 - 5:50pmYeah based on the picture he posted it looks like the first animations they did for Classic Who. We’ll have to see what it looks like in motion but it looks good to me. I miss those old animations a bit 🙂
Prowl1701
August 10th, 2023 - 6:52pmI really liked the planet 55 style, so I would like for it to get leaked.
Prowl 1701
August 10th, 2023 - 9:14pmSomebody post a link, I want to see this picture of the animation
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 11:51pmIt’s not too suprising it’s that style as Ian really loved the moonbase. Hopefully we will get to see it in action.
As much as I want to see this project completed and I do wish ian well on it I can’t but help find some of Ian’s actions very questionable. Several people have suggested a proper crowdfunding site like gofundme or Kickstarter but Ian is very apprehensive and wants “to keep it low key”. You have to message him and exchange bank details instead. No word on what the actual financial target is apart from vague comment about thinking they can animate a 4 parter for £20k. No word on what has been currently raised either. Ian is offering incentives for investing (dvd copies of his versions of shada, mission to the unknown, the unmade season 23 dark dimension plus the newly animated massacre) however offering money for bbc copyrighted material on dvd (namely soundtracks) is a very grey legal area I suspect. He doesn’t seem to have any fallback if the animation gets shutdown by the bbc or if they don’t complete it for whatever reason. The 20k to do a full story comment is also very questionable. Unless he’s using interns or got a special deal to promote the animation team 20k seems very underpaid in animation terms. He has 4 other projects in the works alongside this project but the last I heard he’s still struggling to get financing sorted for this project. Surely it’s best to completely finance 1 thing before starting on the other 4. You can also not say anything negative about the project which means you can’t even question things.
Despite my reservations I am willing to be won over by it. If there was some sort of guarantee of a release through a proper crowdfunding site and the amount to contribute was maybe £40-£50 I could probably justify that.
Gordon
August 11th, 2023 - 2:36amHere you go prowl https://m.facebook.com/groups/1621173348305895/permalink/1751332225290006/
Prowl 1701
August 11th, 2023 - 4:41pmThanks Gordon, I’m neo love the planet 55 style.
Prowl 1701
August 11th, 2023 - 9:11pmDarn autocorrect, I’ve always liked the planet 55 style, especially the Moonbase..
Who is who?
August 19th, 2023 - 6:24pmFrom what I saw of the last batch the only animation that was very good quality was MTTU. Shada was good, but not good enough for a commercial release. Things like the extended DIT are dire. I would think long and hard before anyone parts money for an animation that you have not even seen test moving footage of, at least with the BBC animations you know what you are getting from a trailer and it’s only £20 for DVD/Blu Ray and NOT £100 plus.
Gordon
August 19th, 2023 - 11:48pmIan definitely isn’t happy: It looks like the evil trolls are going to force me into giving mute copies to my friends and investors and they will have to sync it up with the soundtrack.
In other words he was planning on selling DVDs of the animation with the soundtrack on it. People quite rightly told him the bbc own the soundtrack and he would get sued for doing that. So if you are donating it’s £100 minimum for a mute animation.
The 3 images he has put up do look good but however I’m pretty sure they have been simply copied or traced from other images. The shot of hartnell looks good because it’s simply been copied from his reign model from somewhere in those 2 animated episodes. The images of Barry justice and Joan young were copied/traced from set photos of them in costume. The shots only really show that the animation team are good at tracing. The real test is when the animation is motion.
Who is who?
August 20th, 2023 - 9:37amHe could be trousering the money, so no way would the BBC be happy with him selling copies of this. It’ll all end in tears, it normally does. I admire his passion and drive, but certainly not the way he goes about it and his behaviour.
Gordon
August 20th, 2023 - 9:51amPretty sure I can guess how this is all going to go
Step 1: announce plan to animate massacre and asks for donations/money in exchange for dvd. People tell him about the legal complications of doing it but he does not listen
Step 2: show off stills that look good
Step 3: animation gets completed
Step 4: some friends and fans see it and rave about how great it is and better than what the bbc is doing
Step 5: offers it for free. The bbc are impressed but are unable accept for legal and other reasons.
Step 6: Ian has meltdown calls bbc and whoever it was that turned it down ungrateful for throwing back the animation in his face. Rants about how much he spent/wasted on it and about how much he’s done for the bbc over the years and
ungrateful the company is.
Step 7: some time later falls out with someone who then precedes to leak it. Ian precedes to flip out over it and threatens to end whoever ends it.
Step 8: years later the bbc gets round to animating it. Ian buys it then reviews it completely trashing it in the process and talks about how much better his version is
How do I know this will happen? It happened with shada
Gordon
August 20th, 2023 - 9:53am*Ian precedes to flip out over it and threatens to end whoever leaks it.
Gordon
August 9th, 2023 - 10:14pmChris chapman’s current documentary slate:
4 x ‘The Life of…’ docs
3 x making-of docs
2 x ‘Looking for…’ docs
1 x ‘A Weekend with…’
1 x season overview
Total: 11 – across 8 releases
The total includes the king demons making of on season 2020
Auton
August 10th, 2023 - 5:59pmJust some guesses:
The four life of documentaries: Michael Craze (Season 4), Patrick Troughton (Season 6) Ian Marter (Season 13) and Mary Tamm (Season 16)
Making ofs: Horror of Fang Rock, Twin Dilemma and possibly a 60s story.
I have no ideas for the looking fors, usually important people which don’t get the credit as much as some contributers
Weekend with Frazer Hines (due to the fact we have tons of interviews with him already)
Season overview could be for any Season still to release, maybe another 60s one possibly
Harold Shand
August 10th, 2023 - 6:58pmAs well as Chris there is the other guy producing new extras, to lessen the load I guess.
Not sure what he is working on though, just noticed he produce items on last two sets.
Prof Horner
August 10th, 2023 - 8:08pmOne looking for will be Malcom Hulke, I think. An interesting character with interesting life, taken too soon. Maybe Robert Holmes too. The Patrick Troughton feature will be fun , for his private life alone!
Weekend with Sylvester McCoy perhaps?
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 9:06pmSteve broster. He did quite a few extras on the dvd range. The special edition dvd of day of the daleks was completely his baby.
Gordon
August 11th, 2023 - 12:15amI’m going to take a guess:
Season 1: looking for John Lucarotti (total stab in in the dark)
Underwater menace: the life of Michael craze
Season 6: weekend with frazer hines/the life of Patrick troughton
Season 15: the life of Graeme Williams/making of fang rock
Season 16: the life of Mary tamm/making of kroll (despite the lack of living people involved I’m sure something can be made up)
Season 20: the kings demons
Season 25: season overview (or season 1) (every other unreleased season already has a season or era overview)
Not really sure on the other looking for
Anonymous
August 11th, 2023 - 7:12amHe also did the Space War set, which wasn’t so well received. In fact he voiced his own documentaries on the set, but on the S10 blu ray a new voice over was added if i recall correctly.
Prof Horner
August 11th, 2023 - 8:43amHaven’t they already done a Greame Williams tribute on the key to time DVD Boxset? Or was that just about his time on Who ,I can’t remember ,I haven’t watched it in years.Looking for Mervyn Pinfield on season 1 , kit Pedler on season 4 and Malcom Hulke on season 7.
Anonymous
August 11th, 2023 - 10:15amThe Perfect Scenario documentaries, yeah, they were incredibly odd. Including people who’ve never existed and an interview with Barry Letts dating from…ahem…2016. That aged badly immediately, considering he passed away not only in the same year, but in the same month the Dalek War box set was released.
Gordon
August 11th, 2023 - 11:06amThe Graeme Williams doc was more about his era than his life.
DanielM
August 13th, 2023 - 3:52amI wouldn’t say Steve Broster was/is one of the bad Documentary makers. Some of the ones Brendan Sheppard did I do find a bit odd when watching them back now.
Steve’s new Docs for the Blu-ray range so far have been:
Delta and the Bannermen Making-of
Destiny of the Daleks Making-of
The Two Doctors Making-of
Doctor Who and the Collectors: 1960s
Flight Through Eternity – The Story of Season 2
The Tine Monster Making-of (Expanding from the Feature he did for the DVD)
Considering he had hoped to Film part of the Delta and Two Doctors Making-of’s at the original Locations with the main Cast from them, I’ve been pretty happy with what he was able to do.
I’m Batman
August 9th, 2023 - 9:55amThe BFI event is already sold out. Not surprised since Janet and Sarah was gonna be there just like how Katy was at the Sea Devils one.
Really sucks man.
RPG74
August 9th, 2023 - 10:54amI’m pretty sure the tickets go on sale tomorrow.
Gordon
August 9th, 2023 - 1:05pm@rpg74 tickets went on sale for bfi members yesterday and completely sold out of all tickets within 5 minutes.
RPG74
August 9th, 2023 - 11:43pmNo kidding. We’re talking about the Five Doctors yes? Because I could have sworn it was listed as August 10th for tickets on the bfi page but clearly I must have misread this. Sorry for the confusion. That’s absolutely rotten luck for all those who wanted to attend.
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 6:59am@rgb74 You didn’t misread it. August 10th was date for the general sale for non bfi members. Bfi members always get first dibs 2 days early. Sucks a little for the general public but the membership keeps the lights on the bfi southbank and imax.
Joel
August 10th, 2023 - 6:33pmI actually bought membership to try and get tickets this time, having missed out on the last few because of this members pre-sale, but missed the announcement – have been checking the bfi site and Twitter for weeks 🙁
Does anyone know where these events get announced?
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 11:56pmNormally it’s not long after a collection set after.
Gordon
August 10th, 2023 - 11:57pmGets announced
I’m Batman
August 11th, 2023 - 10:55amI only remembered because someone mentioned it on here. And then I checked on the site. It’s not that easily found. I had to know when the actual event would be (16th Sep) and go to that date in the What’s on page. And when I checked first, there was nothing for September, so had to go back.
When I did find it, it said the date of the sale to general public.
I guess only if you know about the member pre-sale, you’d know when it is.