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Doctor Who The Collection Season 22 Limited Edition Packaging
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Across an action-packed season of double-length episodes, Colin Baker’s Doctor and companion Peri (Nicola Bryant) face off against a host of classic monsters and villains, including Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Davros (Terry Molloy) and The Master (Anthony Ainley) – as well as introducing new female nemesis The Rani (Kate O’Mara) and the villainous slug-like Sil (Nabil Shaban). Also returning is Patrick Troughton as the Second Doctor, and his companion Jamie (Frazer Hines).
Episodes:
- Attack Of The Cybermen
- Vengeance On Varos
- The Mark Of The Rani
- The Two Doctors
- Timelash
- Revelation Of The Daleks
With all episodes newly remastered from the best available sources, this Blu-ray box set also contains extensive and exclusive Special Features including:
- Brand New Documentaries – Including a Making-Of documentary for The Two Doctors, and
- a nostalgic trip back for Colin Baker and Nicola Bryant to Season 22’s filming locations.
- In Conversation – Not one but THREE insightful feature-length interviews, with
- Colin Baker, Nicola Bryant and a surprise guest.
- Behind The Sofa – New episodes with actors Colin Baker, Nicola Bryant, Terry Molloy,
- Peter Davison, Janet Fielding, Sarah Sutton, Sylvester McCoy and Wendy Padbury.
- Extended Episodes – Including Vengeance On Varos, The Two Doctors (Part One)
- A Fix With Sontarans – The Doctor and Tegan battle the Sontarans in this special mini-episode.
- Updated Special Effects – View Timelash with optional new effects
- Exclusive New Audio Commentaries – With Colin Baker, Nicola Bryant, Alexei Sayle & Terry Molloy on Revelation Of The Daleks and Colin Baker, Janet Fielding & Gareth Jenkins on A Fix With Sontarans.
- Immersive 5.1 Surround Sound – On Attack Of The Cybermen, Vengeance On Varos and Revelation Of The Daleks.
- The Eternal Mystery – A brand new mini-episode of classic Doctor Who.
- Studio Footage – Rare behind-the-scenes material from Vengeance On Varos, The Two Doctors, Timelash and Revelation Of The Daleks.
- Convention Footage – Featuring actors Colin Baker and Jacqueline Pearce alongside producer John Nathan-Turner.
- Rare Gems From The Archives – BBC archive material including ‘The Colin Baker Years’, plus content covering the promotion of the season and the controversial hiatus.
- Radio Serial – Slipback, a six-part radio adventure.
- Hd Photo Galleries – Including many previously unseen images.
- Info Text – Behind-the-scenes information and trivia on every episode.
- Scripts, costume designs, rare bbc production files
- And other rarities from our pdf archive
- And lots more
The eight-disc box set also includes hours of special features previously released on DVD.
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Bobby Fackrell
January 28th, 2022 - 2:26pmThat trailer could be a prologue to a Big Finish series…..
Rory
January 28th, 2022 - 3:51pmGive them time.
Christopher Eccleston’s fez
January 27th, 2022 - 8:57pmI may be a bit late for this but how do you get replacement discs for Season 12/Season 18? Are the disc company still sending them out?
Mark
January 28th, 2022 - 6:28pmHi Christopher Eccleston’s Fez (made me grin, well done!),
(Very sorry, this is indeed a very long message)
Regarding all replacement discs via the BBC, before you put in a request, they typically require a retail receipt or online invoice as a proof.
Here’s where it gets tricky. Even if you go through the effort to acquire the replacement discs, there are still errors on other Season 18 discs that were never included on the disc replacement programme, but were instead “fixed” on the UK standard blu ray releases – those blue cases and slip cover versions you can find in current retail (many thanks to The Millenium Effect website for this bullet point list below for S18);
1) (On Limited Edition Blu Ray) The mono mix on The Leisure Hive was incorrect; a disc replacement program resolved this.
2) (On Limited Edition Blu Ray) In Meglos, Andrew McCulloch’s name was mis-spellt McCullogh (this was corrected for the 2021 Standard Edition reissue). so not included on any replacement discs, but just the UK standard re-releases.
3) In Warriors’ Gate, Freddie Earlle’s name was mis-spelt Freddie Earle.
4) In the final part of Logopolis, with the CGI option switched on, some of the end credits looped.
5) The US version of Logopolis contained the PDFs for Earthshock.
6) In the US, all HD bonuses and the final two parts of The Keeper of Traken were encoded at 60hz, causing motion blur; a disc replacement program resolved this.
(Regarding Season 12, it’s a bit muddy given lots of seperate disc replacement programmes were set up, simply because each replacement disc contained it’s own unique errors, so if you’re very lucky, you may just receive the very latest edition replacement discs, but I couldn’t tell you how one could identify them by a serial number or whatnot – the easiest way to tell if you receive the wrong discs is by discovering pictures of Jon Pertwee’s stories printed on the discs, yes that was a genuine error)
I’d say to save yourself the trial and error efforts, simply double dip for the standard editions of Season 12 and 18, since they are the very latest editions of all the discs, alternatively if you can bid on good as new pre owned copies for a good price that would be ideal also…
Last but not least, as the bullet point list suggests, and like boxsets such as Season 18, and in one specific instance Season 23, there are genuine editing and compositing mistakes, and as far as I’ve heard, many small errors and mistakes had always exsisted on the Vhs and Dvd releases previously.
I highly recommend the Millenium Effect website (in case you haven’t already been there for Blu Ray collection errors) The wealth of information there is very well done, and very helpful.
Unfortunately it is a very complicated situation, but I hope my advice helps somewhat.
John
January 28th, 2022 - 9:04pmMark do you know if the standard edition of season 19 is an improvement over the limited edition boxset ?
Mark
January 29th, 2022 - 12:26am@John
Regarding Season 19 uk, from multiple review sources, the conclusion is that not a single improvement was applied towards the Standard re-release.
(Important if America collector; The US received a disc replacement programme purely for the audio issue in Castrovalva.)
Season 23 has one single composite error, in the entire box set (a very logical error, and an error that inadvertently is more faithful to the original script, it’s a lightning effect that was later removed from the final broadcast master at the last minute.
However, Seasons 12, 18 and 19 all share a lot of errors.
While 12+18 were re released with a reasonable amount of repairs as standard (some not all errors fixed) Season 19 is the only season not to warrant any improvements whatsoever. None.
Again Millennium effects website is the best place to really study Season 19’s editing errors (admittedly it describes the previous Dvd releases as suffering sound errors due to source material)
So to try and make this short and sweet ; for Seasons 12 and 18, just double dip for the standard releases. Season 19s uk standard discs are identical to the uk limited edition, as is season 23s discs are too identical on both releases.
Here’s some other little pointers;
Season 8, it’s rare but early releases contained printed manual errors/repeating pages. I’m told it’s very rare now and not something to be too concerned of.
Season 10 is good.
Season 12… If you’ve got the limited (any edition of limited) just double dip on the standard discs
Season 14 is good
Season 17 is good
Season 18, if you’ve got the limited, just double dip on the standard
Season 19, identical discs on both versions
Season 22 tba
Season 23, identical discs on both versions
Season 24 is good
Season 26 is good
As I say it is a lot to try and explain, any queries I’m happy to elaborate, but hope all the writing above has helped.
Christopher Eccleston’s fez
January 29th, 2022 - 2:58pm@Mark
Fantastic, that’s more than helpful as I was wondering about the other releases too.
Unfortunately as my Season 18 set was purchased a while ago now (only just got round to watching some of it), I don’t have an official proof of purchase anymore. I’m only worried about the replacement disc 1 for now, so do you know of any other way around this when emailing BBC DVD Support?
Thank you for your help and I’ll check out the Millennium Effect website!
John
January 29th, 2022 - 8:48pm@mark
Thank you for the info thats helped alot thanks
Mark
January 29th, 2022 - 10:26pm@ Christopher Eccleston’s Fez
You’re most welcome, before I found Millennium Effect, I was in a very similar position to you, it’s just one of those things with Blu Ray errors.
As I believe Gordon’s already mentioned on another article, Blu Rays such as S12, S18 and S19 were some of the very early releases from about 2017/2018, and in the aftermath of the replacement programmes (that worked and didn’t quite work) all subsequent releases have been as good as can be. The Season 23 split second error is more fascinating than it is an error, it’s a real blink and you’ll miss it moment. As I say, Season 19 is the very unusual one. If they ever, ever consider it, it would be nice for them just to consider a special revision copy, as they did an edition 2 of S12 (exact packing and discs, but with a number 2 printed next to the barcode, due to how much in demand they were in, way way before the standard slip cases).
I’m drifting off course here with my point which is – The disc programmes were so long ago, some programmes totally unreliable, it is kind of like playing a fruit machine, and Hoping for 3 cherries out of sheer luck.
I completely understand you’re just looking at Lesuire Hive, but to be absolutely blunt, just double dip on the standard slim S18 blu ray. eBay’s a great place for new old stock copies for a bargain as opposed to wrapped up new. (Entirely your preference, but I only suggest it if you had already shelled out for the Limited Edition)
Mark
January 29th, 2022 - 10:45pm@John
Thank you, you’re very welcome also.
Really glad I could help you both. Can’t help but mention Millennium Effect’s Doctor Who website enough. Just had a look at their newspage, they’re providing lots of useful updates per month, and it sounds like they’re lock and loaded for Season 22’s release.
Mark Belsom
January 25th, 2022 - 1:54pmShe still looks pretty good even now.
Lee
January 25th, 2022 - 1:32pmCan I just say how much I absolutely love you guys.
I think you’re all great. I love how some love a story, whereas others hate it. We all have different views and opinions. And it’s all great.
It’s also fantastic how we all enjoy debating this series, even though some of the episodes are coming up for being nearly 60 years old!!
Does anybody else feel as though the classic Dr Who series has got a kind of magnetism to it?
No matter how many formats they release it on, we all still go out and buy it again and again, and then debate the episodes all over again. Even though we’ve all seen them 100 times over!
So please all keep up the good work, and banter everybody.
Let’s hope we’re all still discussing TimeLash in another 60 years from now. xxxxx
The ergon
January 25th, 2022 - 2:47pmI,ll look forward to the SUHD format with full seasons on a USB stick encased smaller with deluxe artwork and optional 3D special efects.
booboo
January 25th, 2022 - 2:58pmDo people here collect everything?
I mean we (as in the site runners) have every VHS, Every DVD, Every special edition DVD and now Every Collection set.
Do people see this as a continuous improvement in quality and content, or just an addition to a completest collection?
Mark
January 25th, 2022 - 3:05pmGreat message Lee.
I remember being very pleasantly surprised by Timelash. Colin and Nicola as usual give it so much energy, Tekka and the Borad’s villain dynamic was really three dimensional. I simply don’t get the fuss of the critics.
Any fuss that does exist can be easily applied to any episode in 1963, to any episode in 2020, it’s just status quo type stuff for me anyway.
The sets were great, the HG Wells stuff is at times quite hilarious. The suspenseful ending is so effective and there’s this small delicate moment of self reflection on the Tardis team, in time for the next story/finale. It’s so subtle but really nice.
So yeah, as you say, 60 years of episodes. Everybody’s got favourites scattered everywhere and it’s great.
Andy R
January 25th, 2022 - 3:45pmIn response to BooBoo, as a child of the video age, i collected all the videos then moved to dvd and now blu rays. Sadly not enough room to retain all the videos except those not released to dvd / blu ray yet like the year tapes or those very early releases like the 60 minute morbius version or ’83 Revenge. I see it as a constant upgrade and the amazing efforts of people to find new material on stories which are, as mentioned, approaching 60 years old.
daz
January 25th, 2022 - 5:17pmI collected the vhs range up until I went to uni in 99. Then bought all the dvds upto when they originally ended.
My vhs were binned when dvd came in. Sold my dvds 3 years ago as started getting the Season Collection sets even though there are still stories I’ve yet to watch. I don’t buy the animations as will get to own them once they are out in their specific collection.
I have no intention of rebuying classic who again in physical format.
As for the new series. I’d bought them originally on dvd and bluray. Sold them once the steelbooks came along. I really want Series 9 and 10 to be released though.
Rory
January 25th, 2022 - 5:19pm@BooBoo, personally I collect all of the books, audios, graphic novels, and episodes. I had a full set of DVDs, but I’m replacing those with BR sets when they’re released. I just don’t have space for multiple DVDs and the BRs, although I’m keeping the more recent animations as I have all of those as steelbooks, and they’re just too pretty to part with.
BMF
January 25th, 2022 - 5:38pmA great message Lee. Colin has been my doctor since I got the Trial of a Timelord box at Christmas – I think I was 15! As you say the beauty of the series is we have so much to enjoy from it so I don’t necessarily understand the need to put other parts of the series down. It’s a magnificent thing to love and I’m grateful we have these Box sets to enjoy.
Doug Who
January 25th, 2022 - 5:54pmGreat point Lee. A (non-fan) friend of mine once asked to watch it and said there was nothing quite like ‘Who’ but couldn’t define why other than it was ‘strange’. ‘Magnetism’ is as good a definition as any!
I suppose my perceptions changed when I started to watch it more as a TV show rather than as ‘Who’ so perhaps became more critical. I still do think things changed with Davison and Baker Mk2, chiefly because the main script editor seemed to actively dislike the central character and the actors were given poor characterisation. For me personally, the shrill, squabbling companions didn’t help either. When Cartmel took over, the Doctor became ‘Doctor Who’ again!
As with others here, I started with the VHS releases but got shot of them when the DVDs came along. One thing I preferred was having the original titles as transmitted rather than remade from the masters. Tiny thing I suppose, but the remade ones seemed somehow inauthentic and also resulted in occasional spelling errors. Seems to have happened with the Blu-ray sets too! Wish they had just cleaned them up.
The collection sets seem to be as ‘definitive’ as these things perhaps can ever be but I love all the contextual stuff such as the discussions, in-depth interviews, clips from other shows etc. I’m a sucker for trailer and deleted scenes too! I haven’t yet disposed of my DVDs and I have a full set of Loose Canon recons on DVD, which I personally prefer (in small doses) to the animations. They made some pretty good extras too!
Rob W
January 25th, 2022 - 6:20pmI don’t collect everything Who related but I do have 2 copies of some releases, shrink-wrapped steelbooks which I hope will be worth a few quids if I fall on hard times. I love Sci Fi and Classic Who has a certain charm and nostalgia now I’m knocking on a bit in age terms!
Gordon
January 25th, 2022 - 7:06pmI’ve been collecting since 2005. I bought pretty much all the classic series and even some of the vhs’s that weren’t out on dvd at that time. For me this will be the last go round for the classic run. I feel there isn’t much further that they can take the picture quality for sd material plus in the case of new extras there might not be too many people around in 10-15 years time if there is another go around and I feel the blu ray releases have been comprehensive as they are going to get. We might get spearhead in 4k if budgets allow and maybe the recent animations but I can’t see anything else getting it. I will still buy any animations or missing episodes that turn up after the collection sets have been released.
Pete X
January 25th, 2022 - 9:35pmI don’t collect everything and don’t have everything I’ve bought (had majority of DWMs from about 1981 onwards – got rid of cos not enough room, books, novelisations and a few new adventures – including Lungbarrow – to charity shops).
Having bought all the videos (went to a neice 13 years ago) and all the DVDs including the SEs andanimations (ongoing?), I wasn’t going to triple dip plus on the Collection, but eventually was tempted by the new features. Will off load the DVDs in a couple of years time once it looks like the Collection is going to completion. At the present time, I’m not planning on buying any further versions other than animated missing episodes out after the corresponding Collection season is out.
By the time the Collection is completed, I will have bought the majority of classic Who 3 times, some 4 times and the Five Doctors; 5 times.
Looking ahead to next year, classic Who will have been available for the general public to buy and view outside BBC broadcast schedules for 40 years. (Ignoring home taping and fan to fan intercontinental swaps and sales.)
Lee D
January 25th, 2022 - 11:06pmI’ve been collecting, since 1986!! I also don’t purchase everything and couldn’t afford too, but my very first vhs was Revenge of the Cyber men, when it first became cheaper as 9 pounds 99p. I keep everything, vhs, dvd, blu Ray. Just love Physical Media.
Erato
January 26th, 2022 - 3:19pmI regret not keeping the VHS sleeves (ditching the cassettes) and keeping them in a folder as the artwork is beautiful and incredibly iconic. I had quite a few signed at 10th Planet and Who Shop signings too.
booboo
January 26th, 2022 - 3:25pmthat’s what we did with them, kept the sleeves, most of the VHS were unwatchable or chewed up, kept all the specials tins and years tapes etc intact though
Chris
January 26th, 2022 - 8:19pmI started with the VHS tapes in ’87, then bought them all again on DVD and now we have the Collections. I have only Season 23 so far as I didn’t really want to get all of them a 3rd time but I will get this one as I love ol’ Sixie. Plus living in the US it would be difficult to get rid of my UK DVDS. All the VHS tapes are in my parents attic back home in the UK and I don’t know what to do with them. Some of the covers are signed by people sadly no longer with us like JNT. I have a feeling at this point they may be unwatchable having been up there for over 15 years. What have other people done with their VHS tapes?
Rex Farrel
January 27th, 2022 - 12:56amI’ve still got most of my vhs tapes and will probably re-buy the few I got rid of, because usually that’s the only way to see the episodes as they were actually produced. As someone interested in how TV was made, and who learnt most of it from watching and reading about Who, the increasing amount of tinkering with the disc versions made me reluctant to dump the tapes – and some stories just aren’t the same on disc, The Three Doctors being the one that stopped my vhs copies from going to the charity shop. I could probably write an essay about the different “improvements” and digital nasties on each disc release of that story, and some of the curious decisions made each time (including the ones they changed again for the special edition, before reverting to the original change for the blu-ray).
Bobby Fackrell
January 27th, 2022 - 10:35amVHS tapes used to be really expensive when I was a kid, I remember getting a few Tom and Peter ones, Five Doctors, Terror of the Zygons, Earthshock, City of Death, I met Tom at a Shada promotion I think at Our Price and he signed my Genesis of the Daleks tape. Videos are long gone now. I also used to ask my older brother to record UK Gold episodes for me as he had sky at his house, I remember fondly having copies of Four to Doomsday and the brilliant Delta and the Bannermen. I collected all the DVDs but as the blu rays came in I have given a few away to friends and stored the rest apart from the 60s ones which are still on shelf as I fear they might take a while. I’m trying to get most of the new series and animation steel books I really need series one to get rereleased. Nice words Lee we’ll have to organise a convention.
Things that go bump in the night
January 27th, 2022 - 4:40pmbooboo,
When collecting everything, you forgot to list Doctor Who BBC LaserVision discs (Laserdiscs). They released a number of titles on LV. I think the first two LVs released were the 60 minute edit of Brain of Morbius and the feature length Robots of Death…
Whilst I now still have a few of the VHS ‘specials’, I didn’t collect many VHS. However, I have kept all the Doctor Who LaserVision discs. And I do have a working machine to play them on… lol
Lee D
January 27th, 2022 - 8:39pmI love the laserdisc too. I would love to own a good copy of the Revenge of the Cybermen, though think finding a good laser of it might be difficult as they so old now.
the ergon
January 25th, 2022 - 11:00amAlthough still rather beautiful for a woman now in her sixties, I still miss the ‘bob style’ peri whom i had an instant crush back in the day.
Mark Belsom
January 25th, 2022 - 1:38pmShe still looks pretty good even now.
RPG74
January 24th, 2022 - 11:50pmThis is a mostly solid season, beautifully packaged with excellent special features, so it will definitely sell. Unlike season 24, which, amusingly, is still available from Amazon and HMV seven months after release. At this rate the Beeb won’t need to release a standard version of that at all.
I’ll choose which version of this to stump for based on my patience level, but I’ll definitely purchase 22 in some form.
the ergon
January 25th, 2022 - 9:46amDon,t say that RPG74, Season 8 is where i finished collecting the limiteds> In fact i sold them all for a decent price so i could start collecting the standards and its saved me plenty of space in the interim. Season 24 is where i,m going to start enjoying watching the standards from when it gets a release.
daz
January 25th, 2022 - 10:31amRPG74. Season 17 is still available too. Obviously a lot of fans are now only buying the standard versions.
RPG74
January 25th, 2022 - 11:14amDaz, season 17 was released a little over five weeks ago, so I’d be surprised if it weren’t still available. I’ve no doubt it will sell out in the coming weeks, because it’s a popular season, unlike 24.
Have to agree about more people purchasing standard versions though. I’ve decided to wait a year or so to pick up 22 in standard, as even though I love my two limited seasons 8 and 18, they don’t look particularly durable, and I’m concerned about the discs not being properly sealed inside. I wouldn’t replace them with standards though; if I’ve bought something I won’t buy it again, and not being very OCD I can happily mix season packages on my shelf.
D84
January 25th, 2022 - 11:38amI admire you, i’m very OCD with my Who collection and always have bought the “Special Editions” and Revisitations in the DVD range, plus the Blu Ray copies of Spearhead, Shada and The Movie
If and when S7 comes to The Collection – that will mark the 4th time i’ve bought Spearhead from Space
My wife just sigh’s at me now 🙂
RPG74
January 25th, 2022 - 12:06pmYes, I’m quite unusual in that respect D84, though I’m certainly not criticising those who are a little more of the perfectionist persuasion. It’s all harmless really and to each their own.
Mark Moxham
January 25th, 2022 - 3:14pmWell I criticised the release of Season 24, as I remember how it felt watching it back in 1987. But I succumbed to temptation when HMV were selling it at 20% off, and I have thoroughly enjoyed it. The stories are not great, particularly Time and the Rani, but the special features really do justify the purchase. I am really surprised S17 is still available – previous Tom Baker sets disappeared much quicker, so I guess this is people waiting for the standard editions.
As to S22 – it’s not a bad season, although I really didn’t like the 6th Dr. I suspect I will purchase. I couldn’t justify the dreadful S23 though, so am just keeping that as standard DVD.
But this range is it for me – irrespective of however superior any further range releases of the Classic show prove to be – enough is enough.
Kamelion
January 24th, 2022 - 10:16pmThis is wondrous news and a fantastic season!!!
All the old gits waffling on about “Gratuitous violence” and other yawn inducing critique should just get their Horlicks and snuggle up with such predictable excrement as ‘Midsomer Murders’ or better still, jet off to Dignitas and have their plug pulled because if you don’t enjoy Season 22 then you must be clinically dead anyway!
Philip Shaw
January 25th, 2022 - 9:13amI’m 57 and officially an old Git! I love season 22 and the gratuitous violence, obviously they thought after the gritty realism of ‘Caves of Androzani’ this was the direction to go. My favourite Dr Who seasons are 12,13 & 14 as I prefer the more adult approach than some of the pantomime antics from seasons 15 to17.
the ergon
January 25th, 2022 - 9:56amBut Kamelion I really do like Season 22 despite its many faults and LAMESH…(sorry Timelash) and I do like a cup of Horlicks occasionally so where does that leave me?
Chris Howarth
January 26th, 2022 - 9:38amI don’t rate Season 22 very highly, but I think the gratuitous violence is perhaps all that elevates it above Season 23.
Prof Horner
January 26th, 2022 - 4:11pmWell you know my views on this season. To me this comes across as a bad parody of the series. With an old Ham actor in lead dressed in the most ridiculous costume . Well I have enjoyed season 17 particularly Shada in in episode form. While Tom Baker goes too far some times, he doesn’t ham it Up like Baker C. The thing is I can enjoy season 17 , which I didn’t particularly like on first transmission , Horns of Nimon is a good laugh . With the passing of the years. . I just can’t watch Baker C and the truly awful McCoy and the painful memory of the series and how it became a laughing stock . Now when’s Midsomer murders on again!
Bobby Fackrell
January 27th, 2022 - 10:49amThe problem with the ‘violence’ in series 22 it’s just there for the sake of being there. The Hinchcliffe ‘violence’ was cleverly interwoven with the narrative and tone of the Hammer -esque themes of the stories they pushed it a bit too much at time but contextually it fitted with the story. Series 22 is contrived ‘violence’ it’s there for the sake of being there almost like Saward is mounting a protest before the complaints have even started coming. It’s unnecessary violence, Shockeye does not need to be suffocated, Cybermen do not need to crush human hands until they bleed, the Doctor does not need to throw thugs in acid baths, all of these scenes could be changed and it would not affect the story whatsoever. Personally I’m not too bothered by it and The A Team was on the other side anyway but I do object to Saward always trying to defend his ‘violence’ saying he is showing true consequences! That’s rubbish my friend, there no such things as Daleks and Cybermen, all these things have come from your mind alone
the ergon
January 27th, 2022 - 1:23pmSome of the 1980s just needed to be implied rather than shown, as in the case of shockeye. The scene with the butterfly net and the cyanide didnt need to be shown in entirety, if at all, and sixies quip at him being ‘mothballed’ wasnt even funny and unnecessary but these became the ‘norm’ in mid 80s Tv and film at the time. You could very easily say the same about Oscar being stabbed. For teatime kids viewing that was abbhorrent but the worse was it was so drawn out and cliched. The scene might have worked better if shockeye was just seen to grab him during his ‘Your wining impecunity has acidised my digestive juices’ line then cut to Oscar already dead in the following scene instead of all that reciting Hamlet nonsense and then ‘Slump’. There are clever ways and means of getting around this as you already mentioned during the Hinchliffe era and that pushed the boundaries in terms of violence with The Deadly Assassin and The Seeds of Doom.
Bobby Fackrell
January 27th, 2022 - 3:04pmI forgot about Oscar being stabbed!
Yes absolutely no need for that, pointless padding in the story which is too long, the whole Shockeye and second Doctor going to a restaurant together is weird full stop. It seems to serve only for location filming of Seville to justify going there! Is it supposed to be funny? Possibly? The Shepard’s pie line is mildly amusing, the scene where they eat and eat is slapstick but if it is supposed to be funny what is the point of Oscar’s death at the end? It just leaves the viewer confused, one minute you are chuckling at how silly they are then you see one kill a man in cold blood. Oscar’s death is completely superfluous to the plot they are secondary characters who help with a little bit of exposition and comic relief but they are barely in it. Also the idea of Shockeye being obsessed with eating a human and walking through a town full of them and going to a restaurant makes no sense! He’s clearly prepared to murder in public so why no eat Oscar? That’s what he wants. Poor structure and pointless excuses to be violent for no reason.
Prof Horner
January 27th, 2022 - 5:22pmIt seems to me that that the problem with the violence , is the total lack of supervision of the series by the head of series Jonathan Powell. There so many elements In this series that should not have been allowed through, like Baker C ridiculous costume that undermined the The Doctor from the start. All the fan pleasing old monsters. Powell seemed to hate the series even more than Grade . The production should have been sacked after this season and completely new team brought in. Remember in the end it was Powell axed the series when he was controller not Grade who had every opportunity to do so.
Bobby Fackrell
January 27th, 2022 - 6:12pmThat’s another good point none of JNT’s doctors had a say in their costumes, all of them often complain about them retrospectively, you can imagine the first four had a lot more input in things like this. It was only really when Andrew Cartmel came in that he and McCoy started to work on seventh Doctor’s character and made him darker. Ironically I actually thought Colin Baker was much better in series 23 before he was sacked particularly his rapport with Peri, they actually look like they get on in that series! A new producer/script editor may have saved Colin, made him more likeable whilst keeping the grumpy and erratic at the same time and changed that damn costume
Sj
January 24th, 2022 - 5:09pmRevelation at BFI march 5th
Rob W
January 24th, 2022 - 6:00pmTickets on sale Tuesday 8 Feb for members, the rest of the general public Thursday 20th.
Rob W
January 24th, 2022 - 6:05pmThursday the 10th!
Coleman
January 24th, 2022 - 9:34pmHas anyone been to these screenings before. Just wondered what the arena was like and how many people would it hold. (Is it a big place)?
Gareth Pugh
January 25th, 2022 - 12:56pmColeman, I’ve attended a few and I’d guesstimate that it seats about 500 people? It’s quite a big space and very ‘wide’. They are good fun for sure. It can help to be a BFI member because a lot of the tickets go on Members’ pre-sale – although I think for the last couple they have held a few back for general public on-sale day after some complaints (I might be wrong about that but I think they have now kept some back for that).With the Q&A, on-stage interviews and sometimes a fun little quiz/prize-giving, the sessions can run quite long – typically 3-3.5 hours.
Coleman
January 25th, 2022 - 7:44pmThanks Gareth, never been to one of the BFI events before so I was a little curious. I’m from Yorkshire so unfortunately these type of events are abit too far for me to travel.
Ian Cotterill
January 24th, 2022 - 5:00pmAny idea yet as to the release date for this set?
Gordon
January 24th, 2022 - 5:09pmSome point in March but no official date has been revealed by the bbc as of now
Ian Cotterill
January 24th, 2022 - 6:54pmPerhaps it’s because of the number of times that sets like these end up being delayed for up to a month.
John
January 23rd, 2022 - 5:37pmAre the standard Bluray releases exactly the same as the special editions or do they have fewer features?
Philip Shaw
January 23rd, 2022 - 6:00pmExactly the same apparently, I collect the limited Editions.
Rob W
January 23rd, 2022 - 6:06pmThe same features but the booklet has fewer pages with less background information on the stories, fewer photos too.
Zizzi
January 23rd, 2022 - 9:19pmIt is possible the standard disks might be different. I know for sure the S18 standard set contained the Meglos disk 2 fix that was not available for the limited set.
Gez
January 24th, 2022 - 8:57amZizzi, what was the issue with Melos?
Rob W
January 24th, 2022 - 9:28amA spelling mistake on the credits Zizzi? The Leisure Hive disc also had an audio problem with replacement discs available.
Zizzi
January 24th, 2022 - 11:09amYes it was a spelling mistake on the writers credits. Disc One had an audio issue with The Leisure Hive and if you write to dvd support they still give out a fix disk for the limited edition if you can prove original purchase from a retailer such as Amazon.
Gordon
January 23rd, 2022 - 12:18pmLooks like the U.K. version will include jimi Hendrix experience’s fire in revelation of the daleks according to both mark Ayers and Peter Crocker
Rex Farrel
January 24th, 2022 - 7:49amPresumably it now falls under the blanket agreements that the BBC have in the UK. But then again, so apparently did The Beatles – and yet they were missing from Evil (unless that counted as a new production requiring new clearances, as I think I speculated before).
Mikk89
January 25th, 2022 - 10:46amI read in the booklet that the Beatles song was cleared for the original broadcast of Evil of the Daleks in 1967, but it wasn’t available to clear for worldwide use, and the Animations were produced as a way to Broadcast them on modern TVs, but instead of paying out a ton for separate versions for UK and US release they just replaced the song with something similar with less rights issues…
DP Hill
January 21st, 2022 - 3:54pmDoes anyone know anythign about the BFI choice and screening dates yet? When are these usually announced – when the full features list is?
I wonder if it will be Vengeance on Varos… probably, or Mark of the Rani?
Gareth Pugh
January 22nd, 2022 - 10:18amRevelation is, I get the impression, the most fan-favourite down the years so I’d guess maybe that?
Gordon
January 22nd, 2022 - 2:42pmIt’s the 5th of March at 12pm according to Justin Johnson of the bfi. He hasn’t named the story yet
Who Knows
January 22nd, 2022 - 5:27pmI don’t think it’ll be Varos as it was shown back in 2013 – I have a feeling it’ll be Attack of the Cybermen . . .
D84
January 22nd, 2022 - 8:17pmLooking good for a release later in March then if BIG event is on the 5th
Can’t wait
Hewy
January 23rd, 2022 - 4:06amI’m sure it will be Timelash – that way a whole new legion of fans will be won over to Doctor Who impressed by superb special effects and superior acting.
Sj
January 23rd, 2022 - 5:18pmAh, The Two Doctors was shown back in 2013 @Who Knows
Coleman
January 21st, 2022 - 3:20pmI wonder what the story is behind always having the Crease on the front of the packaging on these promo images.
When in reality it’s always on the back?
DP Hill
January 21st, 2022 - 3:34pmYou’ll have to ask a certain Lee Binding
Pete X
January 21st, 2022 - 4:48pmIt’s a standard template for each release, the art work for each box and discs merged with the template.
Would have been mocked up before the packaging was available in physical form. Waste of cash to change it, especially 11 releases in.
Ian Cotterill
January 21st, 2022 - 2:07pmWill the DVD and Blu Ray list be updated to include this and other recent releases like Season 17 and Galaxy 4?
booboo
January 21st, 2022 - 2:14pmyes, i thought they had been done to be honest.
booboo
January 22nd, 2022 - 2:09pmall up to date now
Ian Cotterill
January 23rd, 2022 - 9:29pmThanks! 🙂
Popplewick
January 21st, 2022 - 1:28pmWaiting to see Hartnell and Troughton box sets to match these.
Mark
January 21st, 2022 - 4:23pmThat would be cool if they used the rehersal photo of the first Doctor from the Web Planet, wearing the monacle and holding his jacket lapels… And of course with a Zarbi,Menoptra, and the Howlaround effect everywhere. So many ideas, actually how do they fit in all of the villains in for those seasons lol
GeordieW
January 21st, 2022 - 12:50pmCan anyone remember which 16mm materials survive from this one? I vaguely recall that the broadcast print from one episode of Attack of the Cybermen survives and some of the miniatures from Revelation.
Rob W
January 21st, 2022 - 2:36pmDoctor Who Restoration Team Website notes Attack’s location filming was shot on 16mm film.
Mark Of The Rani:- “Despite the action being shot in studio on videotape, early sequence in the bath house needed extensive deblobbing due to sparkle on the film overlay of smoke used throughout the scene. Some instances of film warping leading to the image going out of focus could not be fixed – unfortunately the film sequences themselves no longer exist, so all work had to be done from the videotape masters”
‘The Two Doctors’ was shot as combination of 1″ studio videotape and 16mm location film. Unfortunately, the location film no longer exists in the BBC archives.”
Rex Farrel
January 22nd, 2022 - 8:51amSome Two Doctors film was sold years back on eBay, just before the dvd came out, and not bought by the Restoration Team. (I’ve no idea if they tracked it down again.) Ian Levine had some Revelation film inserts but in poor condition, so they were mostly not used on the dvd. They could probably be cleaned up more easily/affordably now though.
Doug Who
January 22nd, 2022 - 10:20amThe restoration team made attempts to contact the owner of the film inserts but here was no response unfortunately.
Robert W
January 22nd, 2022 - 1:41pmThe Two Doctors owner was contacted by letter and email, but no contact back
Rex Farrel
January 22nd, 2022 - 8:35pmSome people are just daft… Was this around the time of the auction do you know, or more recently for the blu ray?
DanielM
January 23rd, 2022 - 4:32pm@Rex Farrel This was more recently for the Blu-ray they tried contacting the Person.
Rex Farrel
January 24th, 2022 - 8:03amThanks, Daniel. I could understand someone hoarding unique material, but this is just a slightly sharper copy with additional dirt and scratches – why not loan it in exchange for some treats from the archive? And it’s not like he’ll be able to watch a better copy of the full episodes, either. One of the more “eccentric” collectors I presume.
GeordieW
January 25th, 2022 - 9:08amAha! I knew I’d read this somewhere, from the Doctor Who restoration team’s website:
“Model sequences of the Dalek shuttle taking off and Tranquil Repose exploding were replaced by a new Spirit transfer from a copy of the film sequences that John Kelly had purchased on eBay!”
“Some of the film inserts are held privately and were given a one-light transfer, however a degree of damage had occurred and they were considerably more marked when compared to the original TX transfer.”
No info on whether anything survives for Attack of the Cybermen but looking at the quality of the 16mm sequences on the DVD I would be very surprised if they do…
With any luck the team still possess these sequences and were able to restore them for the blu-ray!
Prof Horner
January 21st, 2022 - 11:41amWell I am disappointed , but not surprised that it is season 22. As far as I am concerned this season is just one long video nasty. The series was a was a sitting duck for the axe in 1985 , same old monsters and old Doctor too. Feeding off it’s long gone glory days to keep the fans happy. Out of the six story only Varos doesn’t have any elements from the show’s past. Well that is my view anyway , enjoy it if you buy it , I won’t be. It just leaves season 25 that I won’t be buying. . As for the future , hopefully season 9 will be next, followed by probably season 15. I think next year if as usual we get three seasons they should be made up of one season from each of the first three decades. Probably season 2,13and 20, remember next year it will be over four years since we have had a Davison season , though not by choice. And hopefully we will get funding for another next year animated serial probably Wheel in Space. We will see.
Enough letters for 2 alphabets
January 21st, 2022 - 2:29pmI love the “same old monster’s & same old doctor ” statement followed by a very predictable “bring on the old episodes” argument.
Lets have a look at the facts about these old problems eh?
Season 22:
1 – Colin Baker – a truly new and fresh take of “the doctor” that shared little with his predecessors apart from hartnells edge. A threatening unpredictable alien that “will cry at the death of a butterfly whilst stepping over the bodies of 10 people”
2 -The sontarans – first appearance since 1978 and arguably the last time they possessed ANY threat since the new era ruined the warrior race with “potato jokes”
3 – The Rani, a totally new timelord threat with no good/evil motives but based on science, a fresh aspect to the doctors past – a new “old friend” from the academy. Yes we had the master being a scarecrow for no reason (why was he there lol) and was more floor dressing but the Rani’s interactions and purely hate towards him are pure gold.
4 – The cybermen – Back to basics, metal monster’s in the underground and the first chilling reminder that “they are us” with those slaves on telos.
5 – Davros – a new side of the character and truly shows the sinister, borderline insanely perverse vision of the character, something totally stolen by the new series and given credit to RTD, sorry 1985 davros had the lighting fingers and the dark humor of consumerism.
5a – daleks, a truly horrible version of the daleks that bring a real fear – humans melted down and corpses used to create a new army of daleks. Didnt we see this later taken in the new era……..hhhmmm funny how many ideas we credit to the new era. Next you will say daleks didn’t levitate until 2005…..
6 – “Season 6b”, the arrival of the older 2nd doctor & older jamie- YES WE ALL KNOW PATRICK DIDNT WANT TO HAVE HIS HAIR DYED but the joy of fandom creating a new era of the show with the “postwar games” 2 & jamie, linking to 5 doctors and upcoming big finish sets. Seeing one last appearance of the cosmic hobo that only created more magic and interest that we are still working out 37 years later.
7 – vengeance if varos – aka gogglebox 30 years early and an amazingly dark take on Media and the true “video nasty”. Sil a truly unpleasant creature. Body disfiguration and yes im in the “6 didnt murder” camp.
8 – Timelash, yes its not good on the surface BUT an intriguing idea that reaches to the 3rd doctor and HG wells, even the worst classic who can have fun and unique ideas – timeflight isnt as bad as people say!!
What we have here are just a few examples of gems in this season…….
Colin Baker was and IS a good doctor, was his era “gold”, no, the bbc didn’t care, the audience had too much arrogance and the producer/script editor were at each others throats. Peri & 6 are strong and the guest cast is solid.
This season had 7 MILLION viewers average, didn’t the latest episode barely scrap 3 million?! Controversial to bash jodie i know (shes great!!) but the numbers stand….
Dear dear me…………and the 6th doctor isnt even my favorite 😉 Just get tired of those “season 9” and “city of death is the best doctor who of all”- it isnt lol, there was only 2 channels and one of those had the transmitter hit by lighting so wasnt broadcasting!!!!
“Look at the size of that response doctor”………..”yes jamie…it is a big one”
Philip Shaw
January 21st, 2022 - 2:56pmWell said Enough letters, I agree on all points made. I have always liked Colin and Nicola, lazy writing and budget cuts tried their best to hinder them though.
Ricky
January 21st, 2022 - 5:18pmEnough letters, very well said, i love this season, so much going for it which seems to get overlooked more often than not.
Mark
January 21st, 2022 - 7:08pmEnough Letters, I third that, very well written. Like most Doctor Who, it has pretty shocking moments – but there’s also rewarding character developments, meaningful moments between The Doctor and companions, Enough Letters summed a lot of it up here already.
Underneath the shock and drama of Seasons 22-23, there’s those little moments like Azmael at the end of The Twin Dillema, or The Doctor protecting Mel at the end of the Vervoids, or The Doctor’s defiance to do what’s right at the end of Mindwarp no matter what, and all the great cliffhangers of the C.Baker era, that make these seasons really enjoyable.
Chris Howarth
January 22nd, 2022 - 11:46amHonestly, it’s not a favourite of mine either, far from it. However, another set added to the collection is always a positive for me. The extras look great as ever; and, as someone who likes to visit Doctor Who locations, I’m particularly looking forward to seeing Colin and Nicola revisit some old haunts. My pre-order is in.
D84
January 22nd, 2022 - 8:21pmI genuinely liked this season having only discovered it via UK Gold reruns as a child in the early 90’s. I can see why it’s viewed as violent but taking everything into account – still a solid season for me
Tardis1
January 21st, 2022 - 11:19amShould “A Fix With Sontarons” really have been put on the boxset? Or have they cut the footage with Saville from the episode??
Gordon
January 21st, 2022 - 11:27amI imagine the bits with saville will be gone. Either that or there will be a disclaimer in place.
Rex Farrel
January 21st, 2022 - 1:17pmI was surprised to see Cyril Smith on the Season 17 set (even if there was some unsubtle editing, for one reason or another).
Auton
January 21st, 2022 - 2:16pmWhere was Cyril Smith on season 17 boxset?
Anonymous
January 21st, 2022 - 2:20pmThese sets are a fantastic archive of television of the period as well as (near complete) Doctor Who. Personally I hope for the full segment with a disclaimer, but concede this may be unlikely.
DP Hill
January 21st, 2022 - 3:39pmAt least we all know who the real villain was in ‘A Fix with Sontarans’. It would be nice to have the original, but it is understandable if they chose to remove him – personally I like someone else’s suggestion way below in the comments of editing it into a minisode using the new Colin titles
Rich
January 21st, 2022 - 4:40pmI imagine they’ll leave it intact and the new commentary for it with Colin, Nicola and the then-child involved will be used to set the context and tone, allowing for its inclusion without too much moral wandering. It’d be wrong to exclude this historical piece from the show’s history just as much as to include it without any conmentary. Sounds like they’ve found the right balance between revisionism and exploitation, giving a presentation that will be neither. But it’s inevitable its inclusion or exclusion would upset a significant number of fans either way. For me, whitewashing it wouldn’t be the answer just as including it with no context wouldn’t either. Inagine this was heavily discussed behind the scenes.
Rich
January 21st, 2022 - 6:45pm@Auton- Shada/Disc 6, Wogan/Lalla Ward interview.
Auton
January 21st, 2022 - 8:09pmI haven’t started watching Shada yet so that’s why I hadn’t noticed
GrantP
January 21st, 2022 - 9:35amLovely to see Peri back! Would be great if the 60th could include a few of these classic companions to help the new doctor settle in perhaps!
D84
January 21st, 2022 - 10:06amI quite agree, I would love a good proper reunion episode full of surviving companions and doctors.
I have joked with a friend of mine several times that I could write this myself ………… well, the opening 10 minutes perhaps. Visiting each one, what they could be up to in their after doctor life, and how they could be drawn into a big adventure with multiple doctors.
I don’t quite think we will get that, not in “The Five Doctors” style anyway, but who knows
Richard Williams
January 21st, 2022 - 10:11amIf they don’t work William Russell into the 60th Special, they’re really missing something that could be totally awesome.
daz
January 21st, 2022 - 10:34amA 60th special has yet to be confirmed so don’t get your hopes up. Doctor Who returns with the 14th Doctor in November 2023 after this years BBC Centenary Special in October.
That and RTD could be the only thing ‘special’ we get. I can’t see it being like the 50th in terms of a multi Doctor event.
the ergon
January 21st, 2022 - 10:38amI think Russell T Davies should bring back William Russell and Carole ann Ford. This could be the last chance to get these two back together on screen. They could do minisodes as they did with ‘night of the doctor’. Bring back the surviving doctors. Tom reprising The Curator and Peter, Colin and Sylvester playing evil villains of some sort, and as well as all 21st century docs, add a sprinkling of a few companions. Rose, Donna, Martha, Amy and Clara should return if briefly. It needs to be a massive event but spread out so the past and present can take centre stage. of course it will be a massive undertaking but the perfect opportunity to achieve this.
Gordon
January 21st, 2022 - 10:50amWilliam Russell is 97. Probably closer to 98 by the time the 60th is filming. Bar a cameo appearance in a film with his son a few years back he really hasn’t done any on screen appearances since his cameo in the adventures in space in time. He is pretty much retired from acting at this point. I’m sure he will appear if asked and is well enough but it all depends on what Russell has planned. It might not fit to have him in. Also he couldn’t play Ian again as what was established in sja was that Ian and Barbara seemingly haven’t aged since the 1960’s.
Popplewick
January 21st, 2022 - 2:07pmI think its not beyond feasibility for Sylvester , Colin and Peter to still play the Doctor …I figured a way they could do it 😉
The ergon
January 21st, 2022 - 4:02pmDont say the 5-ish doctors 2, that doesnt count.
Callum
January 22nd, 2022 - 3:44pmI hope with RTD in charge of the 60th. We may get some old companions back. Without him we wouldnt have got sarah jane back or even jo. The show is in good hands with him. All upto who he casts as the 14th doctor.
The ergon
January 23rd, 2022 - 2:47pmIve said it once and ill say it again. Lydia west. Shed be perfect.
Ian zygon
January 21st, 2022 - 7:50amIt a shame the oversea’s 25.min versions are not on as a different take!
Erato
January 21st, 2022 - 7:54amThey should never see the light of day again. The cliffhangers are awful.
Auton
January 21st, 2022 - 8:04amThe set is already sounding quite packed so they wouldn’t be able to fit them on here and these stories weren’t designed to be four parts so they work better as double length 2 parts
Ian Cotterill
January 21st, 2022 - 8:12amThe cliffhangers of the 25 minute versions will probably appear on the ‘Trails and Continuity’ section, just as a number of them did on the original DVDs.
John
January 21st, 2022 - 8:46amI’d have loved specially made 25 minute edits based on how the episodes were split up, but with better mixing and specially recreated titles. I gather that the cliff hangers weren’t always in the same places for some of the episodes. I have seen two different versions of The Two Doctors Part One. That said I appreciate that space would have been an issue.
DP Hill
January 21st, 2022 - 3:40pmI also found it a little bit of a shame that the didn’t do re-edits of these international broadcasts to better fir the cliffhangers in, but at least we do have a fantastic boxset packed to the brim with plenty of special features and beautiful artwork enough to warrant them not doing that
CJ1991
January 21st, 2022 - 5:22amI really hope that they continue to release with the current logo (once Jodie’s era is over). I like having them all match up. It would also be great if they release the 2005-present era in the same style, so that fans can have the definitive collection. Imagine if we could also get ones for spin-offs The Sarah Jane Adventures, Torchwood and Class…
D84
January 21st, 2022 - 10:39amI think its been said before that assurances have been given the logo will remain consistent for these sets even if the new series logo changes again (which I imagine it will)
I quite agree I too would love the 2005 – onwards series to be repackaged into this format
I doubt though that we could get the spinoff’s in this format as I think they have already been released and re released a few times, but who knows
Gordon
January 21st, 2022 - 11:07amTorchwood might get done but that could depend on if fences can get rebuilt with barrowman and the bbc. Going by what John has said on twitter the bbc need to apologise to him first but I can’t see them doing that considering how outspoken against them and big finish he has been since they ditched him. . Sarah Jane might but I can’t see them being released in seasons seeing as you can buy the whole lot for less than the cost of 1 collection set. I doubt class would ever get done. I just don’t think the popularity is there to do it. It really wasn’t a popular show and I don’t think it sold very well. It’s probably one of only a few doctor who DVDs I’ve never felt compelled to buy
Mikk89
January 22nd, 2022 - 2:39amI reckon Torchwood maybe be possible but again relying on the BBC (and possibly big finish) to apologise to Barrowman for ditching him… and SJA could be done as a Collection Set or 2 ( example Series 1-2 set, followed by a Series 3-5 with a new Behind the Sofa like Series with the Kids from each season
Plus would love a New Series The Collection Set could be a chance to find the 45 minute Confidentials, include the promotional material for the Christmas Invasion and Series 2, the TARDISODES, and maybe expand Series 4, 7 and 13 to include the subsequent specials
Prowl 1701
January 21st, 2022 - 12:02amGot my order in, though with a different supplier as I’m still waiting for my season 17 to cross the pond with the one I used for it. Love the season 22 artwork, from the front cover to the booklet, it is stunning. Lee Binding is amazing. I’ve only seen half of this season, so this will be a treat for me.
Bobby Fackrell
January 21st, 2022 - 11:28amIf the half you are missing is Attack of the Cybermen, Mark of the Rani and Timelash don’t get too excited
Prowl 1701
January 22nd, 2022 - 12:35amAs one of my subscribers, you know those are the three I haven’t seen . I’m still excited though. Should my first viewing of timelash be with the new effects so I might get a better first impression of it?
DP Hill
January 22nd, 2022 - 2:31amProwl1701, I’d say definitely watch with the updated effects, I remember disliking the effects even as an imaginative child when watching it on DVD, so give those a go. Attack and Rani are both underrated stories which i very much enjoy, so don’t give up hope on them.
Erato
January 22nd, 2022 - 7:48amPaul Darrow’s performance as Richard III, sorry Malin Tekker, is the only reason you’ll ever need to watch Timelash.
Bobby Fackrell
January 22nd, 2022 - 10:10amTimelash is definitely the best of that trilogy. I quite like Colin’s performance in it especially with Herbert
Yes it is cheap, bland and overlit with a strange old story but there’s something about it which is quite engaging. Like Twin Dilemma it’s better than its reputation, there’s much worse ones out there like Attack of the Cybermen and Mark of the Rani for example!
Bobby Fackrell
January 22nd, 2022 - 10:15amThe funny thing is Revelation is most people’s favourite in this series, it’s certainly mine and it’s an Eric Saward script so is Slipback which is also very good.
Saward was a bit like Douglas Adams, a few excellent individual efforts but not very well suited for the script editor position itself.
the ergon
January 22nd, 2022 - 11:19amI,m sorry Mr. Fackrell but i,m really starting to question your Judgement on certain stories and seasons. The acting on Timelash was so over the top and awful and not helped by some of the worst dialogue in the series history. The actors Peter Robert scott and Jeananne crowley should have been replaced, they were that bad. The Borad is its only saving grace. Its even colins least favourite (and he actually thinks The Twin Dilemma isn,t that bad). At least Attack and Mark are more fun and have one or two standout scenes, this is just drawn out and laborious. The anagram for Timelash still stands.
Bobby Fackrell
January 22nd, 2022 - 12:10pmDon’t get me wrong Timelash being better than Mark and Attack still doesn’t make it good!
I like Vengeance and Revelation but I think the rest of them are rubbish, Timelash is just the best of a bad bunch.
Attack of the Cybermen is all over of the place, JNT and Ian Levine’s obsession with continuity backfiring badly, just like Warriors from the Deep. It’s like Destiny of the Daleks there are some things buried in it which have so much potential but the plot holes are so fundamentally bad they sink the whole story. Mark of the Rani is also a mess, the Master is completely superfluous in this story and just serves as ridicule for the Rani. He chuckled about how he survived being burnt to death in Planet of Fire like he’s laughing at the viewer themselves. It would have actually been better not to reference it all. The cliffhanger! Come on! The Two Doctors is a list of JNT demands, I want sontarans, I want Patrick Troughton, I want Spain and Saward and Bob Holmes have to try and put it altogether. ‘Bells Peri!’
I know it’s not all Saward’s fault and JNT deserves blame too but the mid 80s was a mess. Series 18 and 19 are both brilliant, 23 is good, 24 I have found a bit of new love for, 25 is great and 26 is a classic series.
It’s just that middle bit!
RPG74
January 22nd, 2022 - 12:59pmThere’s a sort of demented genius to Timelash which makes it a fun watch. And it’s still leaps and bounds better than McCoy’s Paradise Towers, which for me is still the worst ever Doctor Who story.
bryan
January 20th, 2022 - 10:36pmBuying this because I adore Colin Baker as the Doctor. But look at those e tras 3 , 5.1 soundtracks. 2 CGI stories. A commentary on Fix with the Sontarans .
5000 pages , that is a big one, and It’s such a pretty little Box.I would say Exquisite, simply Exquisite
Queen Peri and Rex ( come on BF even if only one adventure) simply beautiful. It looks so beautiful
All those Extras, we have a fabulous team who really. Go beyond ,and give us such treats
Lewisfrisby
January 20th, 2022 - 10:21pmI cant wait for this set to come out roll on march 14th
the ergon
January 20th, 2022 - 10:12pmDon,t we usually get the almost obligatory eaglemoss figurine to accompany one of these releases?. Or was The Borad it?
Popplewick
January 21st, 2022 - 1:27pmRani’s Console would be good as would Stike with that gun Colin gave to Gareth Jenkins…..
The ergon
January 21st, 2022 - 5:33pmThere a few left. Ranis console, yes but i cant see anything more from colins just yet. Id like stike and varl but eaglemoss dont do sontarans well. Shockeye and chessene most definitely or 2nd and shockeye in top hat and tails. And blue android and theres a few from revelationthe obvious choices. One of the best lines that always raises a smile is when the camp vogel says ‘Yes maam, i,m a past master at the double entry’. Ooh,er.
TheBrigadier@2013
January 20th, 2022 - 10:05pmCan’t wait for this one! Always had a soft spot for good old Sixie! Attack of the Cybermen is still, to this day, one of my favourite stories!
the ergon
January 20th, 2022 - 10:01pmWorth buying just to see Brian Glover screaming at a cyberman in HD.
NickD
January 20th, 2022 - 9:46pmWell with the potential loss of animated reconstructions I really am beyond happy that we’ll get this season on high definition. I absolutely love it. I am so happy and I’m counting the days to it’s release.
Richard
January 20th, 2022 - 9:45pmI would love to see the Tennant series done with this sort of artwork. Maybe with a new interview with David himself once the classics are all out.
Gordon
January 20th, 2022 - 9:22pmThe pdfs are 5676 pages and contain the following:
DISC 1 – ATTACK OF THE CYBERMEN
Draft Script (Cold War): Part 1 – 112 pages
Rehearsal Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 219 pages
Camera Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 265 pages
Production Document Archive – 381 pages
Radio Times Material – 6 pages
Doctor Who Annual 1986 – 64 pages
Season 22 BBC Enterprises Sales Sheets – 11 pages
Season 22 BBC Television Audience Reaction Report – 7 pages
DISC 2 – VENGEANCE ON VAROS
Draft Scripts (Planet of Fear): Parts 1 & 2 – 92 pages
Rehearsal Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 199 pages
Camera Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 236 pages
Production Document Archive – 318 pages
Radio Times Material – 5 pages
DISC 3 – VENGEANCE ON VAROS
Slipback Production Document – 2 pages
Slipback Radio Times Material – 7 pages
VHS Cover – The Colin Baker Years – 1 page
DISC 4 – THE MARK OF THE RANI
Draft Script: Part 2 – 77 pages
Rehearsal Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 233 pages
Camera Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 241 pages
Production Document Archive – 134 pages
Radio Times Material – 6 pages
Blu-ray Alternative Score Cue Sheet – 3 pages
DISC 5 – THE TWO DOCTORS
Rehearsal Script: Part 1 (First Draft) – 101 pages
Rehearsal Scripts: Parts 1-3 – 253 pages
Camera Scripts: Parts 1-3 – 265 pages
Post-Production Scripts: Parts 1-3 – 248 pages
Production Document Archive – 277 pages
Radio Times Material – 5 pages
Studio Floor Plan – 1 page
DISC 7- TIMELASH
Rehearsal Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 194 pages
Camera Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 231 pages
Camera Script: 4-6 December 1984 Studio Recording – 149 pages
Production Document Archive – 225 pages
Radio Times Material – 3 pages
DISC 8 – REVELATION OF THE DALEKS
Rehearsal Script: Parts 1 & 2 – 249 pages
Camera Script: Parts 1 & 2 – 243 pages
Post-Production Scripts: Parts 1 & 2 – 224 pages
Production Document Archive – 377 pages
Set Design Drawings – 3 pages
Radio Times Material – 9 pages
Auton
January 21st, 2022 - 6:41am“Yes Jamie, it is a big one”