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October 11th, 2021 180 comments

Doctor Who The Collection Season 17 Blu-ray

Available to order from www.amazon.co.uk, www.zavvi.com, www.hive.co.uk and other selected retailers

Build your own Doctor Who archive with this collectors’ set.

  • DESTINY OF THE DALEKS
  • CITY OF DEATH
  • THE CREATURE FROM THE PIT
  • NIGHTMARE OF EDEN
  • THE HORNS OF NIMON
  • SHADA

With all episodes newly remastered from the best available sources, this Blu-ray box set also includes extensive and exclusive Special Features including:

BRAND NEW DOCUMENTARIES
Including a Making-Of documentary for Destiny Of The Daleks, and new featurette for The Creature From The Pit.

TOM TALKS
A candid interview with Tom Baker as he gives us his unique take on life, the universe and everything.

DOUGLAS ADAMS TRIBUTE
Friends and colleagues remember the Doctor Who writer/script editor and creator of The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy.

IN CONVERSATION
Matthew Sweet chats to Bob Baker, writer of Nightmare Of Eden, co-creator of K9 and one of the creative forces behind Wallace & Gromit.

BEHIND THE SOFA

New episodes with actors Colin Baker, Katy Manning, Matthew Waterhouse, Nicola Bryant, June Hudson, Graeme Harper & Mat Irvine.

LALLA WARD INTERVIEW
An extensive interview discussing her first year on the programme.

UPDATED SPECIAL EFFECTS
View Nightmare Of Eden with optional new effects.

SHADA
An updated version of the ‘lost’ story, completed with enhanced animation and presented in six episodes for the very first time, alongside the original 1992 VHS and 2017 versions.

EXCLUSIVE NEW AUDIO COMMENTARIES
With Tom Baker on episodes of Destiny Of The Daleks and City Of Death, and Lalla Ward & Catherine Schell on City Of Death.

EXTENDED EPISODE
An early cut of The Creature From The Pit Part Three.

BLU-RAY TRAILER
A familiar face returns in a brand new mini-episode of classic Doctor Who.

IMMERSIVE 5.1 SURROUND SOUND
On Destiny Of The Daleks and Shada.

RARE GEMS FROM THE ARCHIVES

BBC archive material covering the promotion of this season.

CONVENTION FOOTAGE
A triumphant 1997 appearance from Tom Baker.

HD PHOTO GALLERIES
Including many previously unseen images.

PRODUCTION SUBTITLES
Behind-the-scenes information and trivia on every episode.

SCRIPTS, COSTUME DESIGNS, RARE BBC PRODUCTION FILES AND OTHER RARITIES FROM OUR PDF ARCHIVE AND LOTS MORE!

The seven-disc box set also includes hours of special features previously released on DVD.

Clean artwork and cover by Lee Binding


Categorised under: Blu-ray, DVD, Featured

180 comments

  • Tom

    October 8th, 2021 - 1:01am

    Amazon UK out of stock already.

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    • no name

      October 8th, 2021 - 6:34am

      available to pre order right now…

    • Ian Cotterill

      October 8th, 2021 - 8:43am

      Glad I got a move on and pre-ordered my copy ASAP. 🙂

    • Tom

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:24pm

      Nope – still coming up listed as “Temporarily out of stock.
      We are working hard to be back in stock as soon as possible.” and no option to pre-order.

    • Tom

      October 9th, 2021 - 2:04am

      I worked it out – I put in a delivery postcode in the UK and it comes up available as a pre-order. I’m in Australia. So it’s geo-blocked to non UK customers (but Amazon being Amazon doesn’t want people to know they geo-block so they say “temporarily out of stock, uh we are working hard etc etc absolute BS).
      So I’ll have to go with Zavvi and have my set posted inside a 1mm thin plastic bag.

  • Acefan2005

    October 8th, 2021 - 12:48am

    anyone else have any issues on the collection standard editions for seasons 12&19? It’d be a great help if anyone could give me some advice

    thanks.

    Reply
    • whofan44

      October 8th, 2021 - 12:59am

      What kind of issues?

    • Acefan2005

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:54am

      audio & picture are out of sync, I’ve got replacements but they’ve got the same issue, I haven’t found suu issue with any other blu ray DVDs

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:46am

      Is it the castravalva continuities?

    • whofan44

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:23pm

      Hmm. I ain’t watched the stories included in those sets yet (except for Time Crash) but I did watch all the Behind the Sofa stuff and everything seemed fine to me.

    • Acefan2005

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:58pm

      Auton: No, it’s the WHOLE set for both of them
      Whofan44: The behind the sofa episodes are really bad with the issue.

    • Gordon

      October 8th, 2021 - 7:00pm

      Sounds like the US set

    • Acefan2005

      October 9th, 2021 - 5:11pm

      It’s fine now, I had the HDMI cable in the wrong socket

  • Lewisfrisby

    October 7th, 2021 - 9:43pm

    I have pre ordered my copy of season 17 I have a couple of questions 1 how many discs are there 2 when is it released does anyone know

    Reply
    • daz

      October 7th, 2021 - 10:14pm

      7 discs.

      Monday 13th December.

  • Daniel Cox

    October 7th, 2021 - 9:32pm

    Pre-ordered, I was expecting this to be announced this month. Shame Tom and Lalla aren’t doing behind the sofa

    Reply
  • Hi

    October 7th, 2021 - 8:16pm

    I think the next box sets are
    2022-Season 9, Season 15, Season 22
    2023-Season 1, Season 4, Season 5, Season 11, Season 16, Season 20
    2024-Season 2, Season 6, Season 7, Season 13
    2025-Season 21, Season 25
    2026-Season 3

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    • Chris Maile

      October 7th, 2021 - 8:20pm

      I think you’re being a bit optimistic for 2023 – I really can’t see 6 sets being released in 1 year, even if it is the anniversary

    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 8:28pm

      Not only that, theyll probably leave the early stuff untill last to make sure most of the missing episodes are animated.

    • D84

      October 7th, 2021 - 8:42pm

      Agreed Chris, 3 or 4 per year is the max we will see (just my own opinion)
      Seasons 1, 4 and 5 all have further animations to do before they can be released (1, 2 and 2 stories – with Abominable confirmed but not confirmed as yet) so I think S4 at least will be a bit later down the line.
      I’ll be a very happy whovian once I have all 27 sets sitting proudly on my shelf though.

      I hope that the B&W sets are held back until the animation for that season is complete. If they do Wheel in Space (along with Abominable) they S5 is ready to go. S1 and 2 are also almost there as is S6 so a little focused effort and joined up planning could get those over the line in the next few years

    • Chris Maile

      October 7th, 2021 - 8:58pm

      Not just your opinion D84 – Mark Ayres has previously said that 3 or 4 releases a year is the realistic expectation.

      I also agree that the B&W sets shouldn’t be released until the missing episodes are animated and I believe that is the intended plan anyway.

    • Gordon

      October 8th, 2021 - 12:43pm

      They struggled to get 4 a year out in 2019 and that was done to establish the range. Going by both what Richard bignell and mark ayres have said 3 a year going forward seems most likely depending on the seasons chosen. Speculation on my part but I’d imagine if they do some of the black and white seasons (1,2 and 6 comes to mind) we might only get 2 a year due to how much more additional work they would be. 3,4 and 5 should be a bit more simpler to restore everything once they have the animated gaps filed in and if they continue restoring the audio and visuals for blu ray like they done for web/evil/galaxy 4

    • MIKK89

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:31pm

      I think to space it out, BBC could look into releasing the New Series as Collections, so that they could do maybe 2 Classic Seasons and 2 Modern Seasons a Year (though doing the modern years would be better in chronological order and maybe including the 2009-2010 Tennant Specials with Series 4, ‘The Day of The Doctor and ‘The Time of the Doctor’ With Series 7 [‘An Adventure in Space and Time’ included on the Classic Runs 1st Season Boxset] and ‘Twice Upon a Time’ on Series 10) maybe adding the Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood too…

      At least it would give them more material to spread out and imagine the special versions of stories that the Classic series had, what if BBC offered us the chance to see ‘The End of Time’ as an uncut 2+ Hour Movie Version…

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:53pm

      I think the classic seasons should be done first before any new series gets done as sadly we Don’t have forever to get all the interviews and special features done as the cast and crew are obviously more older than the new series cast and crew so it’s only logical to finish the classic series before moving on to the new series.

    • MIKK89

      October 8th, 2021 - 3:55pm

      I can see that from the seasons aired between 1970-1988/9 (I don’t include Season 26 as it has already been released) but if it gives them more time to cope with the Black and White seasons with Hartnell and Troughton, It could help expand the release time so that the animation studio gets a bit of breathing room to reanimate other missing episodes/stories…

  • Auton

    October 7th, 2021 - 7:30pm

    Let’s hope they found a copy of the Lalla Ward Swap Shop for this set

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    • Chris Maile

      October 7th, 2021 - 7:56pm

      Surely there are known copies of it? I’ve had it for years!

    • mac

      October 7th, 2021 - 9:52pm

      One of the restoration guys on twitter was looking for a 1st generation copy of it. If yours is first generation, I would look it up.

    • Chris Maile

      October 7th, 2021 - 10:47pm

      Mine sadly isn’t 1st generation but probably a good 3rd

    • Mac

      October 8th, 2021 - 12:28am

      It was Peter Crocker – @CrocmanSnappy – that was searching. You might wanna try and get in touch.

    • Chris Maile

      October 8th, 2021 - 7:54am

      Thanks for that Mac – I’ll contact him but it’ll be too late for this release anyway.

    • Cyberdevil

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:27am

      Chris, it’s not too late from what I’ve heard.

    • Mac

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:48pm

      Its not to late. There still asking people if they have better scans of scripts for the PDFs.

    • Chris Maile

      October 9th, 2021 - 11:25am

      I’ve finally located it, after a lot of scurrying about in the loft!!! I’ve contacted Peter Crocker but it’s not brilliant quality, so I don’t know if it’s going to be of use

  • Cymon

    October 7th, 2021 - 6:48pm

    Already on eBay for about £60.00

    Reply
  • Auton

    October 7th, 2021 - 5:52pm

    Amazing news (even though it was rumoured), one of my favourite seasons with city, nightmare (updated effects will make it even better) horns and shada (great there is now a 6 part version like how it would of been broadcast if it had been) being some of my favourite stories. All the stories are so fun. Well done Gordon for guessing the in conversation with Bob Baker. Great to finally have a making of for Destiny of the daleks and another documentary for creature. Wish there was a making of for horns of Nimon but there’s already a great commentary and an interview with the writer so it’s not the end of the world. Love the idea of an interview with Tom Baker about random stuff and more interviews with Lalla ward is always good. I’m really looking forward to this set it’s going to be great!

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  • Rory

    October 7th, 2021 - 5:11pm

    Obviously I’m having this.

    Why do they persist in adding the folds to the front of the case in images, when those just aren’t there?

    Reply
    • Shane McEntee

      October 7th, 2021 - 6:35pm

      One of these folds exactly like that is on the back of one of my sets and I’m not sure why. I did drop them once so maybe it folded in on a pre-made guide. I think it can fold that way if you force it but I’d rather keep it pristine.

    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 6:54pm

      They should be on the back of them all Shane, it’s an opening crease.
      Rory’s on about why are they always on the front of the box of these promotional images when they should be on the back.

    • Shane McEntee

      October 7th, 2021 - 11:33pm

      You’re right Coleman it is. It’s jist far more prominent on my Season 26, I never noticed it on the others

    • Coleman

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:07am

      Hi Shane, I think it’s abit of a pet hate with some people.
      Im not sure why the crease is always on the front on these promo images though..
      They do it every single box set recently. Lol.

    • Pete X

      October 9th, 2021 - 3:48pm

      It’s a standard digital layout for all of the releases. All of the promo images have the same layout of box (closed and open), booklet and discs. Although the arrangement of discs varies with number, those Collections with the same number of discs have the same disc layout.

      Generating a promo image appears to be a “mail merge” of the artwork and the correct template for the number of discs.

      The template might have been generated when the Collection was first being floated as an idea, used in the Season 12 promo and not changed because the change to the box which put the fold on the back occurred after the release of the promo.

      Alternatvely the templates may be from the company who create the boxes.

      Either way, changing the template now might cost. And, regardless of that cost, what would you rather the money and time spent on – fixing a minor promo error or content?

  • Prof Horner

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:44pm

    The big question is will it be released when they say ,or will as I suggested last week , come out in January. Given none of them have come out on the date they originally said. Great cover as always.

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    • Gordon

      October 7th, 2021 - 5:41pm

      Season 10 was

    • Prof Horner

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:01am

      So one was released when they said. But the recent ones have all been released later than they said. Well the special features look good . This is something to look forward to.

    • Coleman

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:46am

      Odds are definitely against it being released on time. 1 in 9 are not good odds.

  • David Minter

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:35pm

    I do hope this gets released in NTSC in North America. I don’t see why it wouldn’t, but you never know.

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  • Charles Moak

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:33pm

    Oh, I’m so relieved that Amazon UK is shipping to the US again. That last Pertwee season nearly grayed my hair.

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    • Prowl 1701

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:42pm

      Completely agree! Waiting on the other supplier I had to use was frustrating.

    • the ergon

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:46pm

      Maybe thats one of their incentives charles, a bonus to try and give you that pertwee look through stress.

    • Charles Moak

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:25am

      I like it, Ergon. I like it. I guess it’s time to hit up my local crushed velvet dealer…

  • Master of M

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:21pm

    Ordered 🙂

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  • Dalekz

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:13pm

    Good that these are coming out so fast we will be done in less time than the DVD’s took hopefully. I wait for the standard ones however.
    I hope the suply issues get better though Amazon still don’t have season 23 in stock.

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  • Mac

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:09pm

    Wonder if they managed to squeeze more studio footage out of the City of Death tapes?

    It took the restoration team ages to get 20 minutes on the original DVD.

    Apart from Shada, I don’t think there’s much studio footage left from this series….so no sweary Tom

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    • Rex Farrel

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:27am

      I hope we get all the Shada studio footage this time, but they normally mention stuff like that on the press release, so I’m not hopeful.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 7:15am

      Shada does have two disks so it’s likely

    • DanielM

      October 10th, 2021 - 7:55am

      I do hope that they are able to include most of the Raw Footage from Shada. I remember back in 2017, Charles Norton said he wanted to include it all but it would have required an extra Disc. If Season 24 is anything to go by, they should be able to have most of it on there as the total Footage is about 4-5 Hours from what I know. It might really depend on how much space there is as there is already 3 Shada’s being included. (1992,2017,2017 6 Parts)

  • Coleman

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:09pm

    The Creature from the pit.
    I once commented on here a long time ago about Erato, but Booboo never showed my comment.
    (I don’t think he was amused), oh dear.

    Reply
    • the ergon

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:26pm

      Erato must have found it amusing Coleman, he comments on here regulary now

    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:29pm

      Yes, I’ve noticed he’s just started commenting.

    • Erato

      October 7th, 2021 - 6:51pm

      Erato loves this set, and he’ll even offer personally autographed copies signed with his enormous green appendage for a small extra cost.

    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 6:57pm

      In Definitely in Erato. lol

    • Rex Farrel

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:29am

      I’d have put Erato on the front cover. Maybe they just didn’t have a good enough photo…

    • Coleman

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:10am

      Or they couldn’t stop laughing when they tried him on the cover.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:48am

      I think Having Erato on the front cover would make this boxset PG 18

    • The ergon

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:49am

      Yes thats a point,they could have included erato somewhere on that cover. The other enemies all get a look in.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:58pm

      Well Ergon one of the monsters had to be left in the pit

  • Joshua Scales

    October 7th, 2021 - 4:03pm

    Is there going to be a BFI event for this?

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    • George Roll

      October 8th, 2021 - 1:30am

      Yes, in November. shh.

  • Jay

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:56pm

    This looks like another great set. Love that cover!

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  • Mac

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:56pm

    SHADAAAAAA!

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  • Pete X

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:55pm

    Ordered.

    Of the second half of Tom’s run; this is my favourite season.

    I hope it comes out on the release date this time, it will be nice to watch the whole thing over Christmas.

    Reply
  • Kevin225

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:53pm

    Good news – I look forward to this arriving mid January!

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  • Coleman

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:52pm

    Ouch, my poor wallet.
    Doesn’t that cover look great though.

    Reply
  • D84

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:47pm

    Excellent. My pre order is in already. Trailer is great as always and looks like a great selection of extras and spruced up episodes etc.

    Another excellent release, keep them coming please BBC studio’s, “only” 17 more to go to complete the “classic” series (if you include a Wilderness set)

    I am still hopeful, even if it’s a few years off – that NuWho will receive the same treatment

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    • Haza14

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:41pm

      So do I! I’d love to see new Who get boxsets like this too! Even if it’s after all the classic series sets have been released. Would love to see the HD seasons upgraded to 4K maybe too! There’s so much potential content for new series sets!

    • Kevin225

      October 7th, 2021 - 8:31pm

      I would love to see this continue to cover Nu-Who, but at the rate they are being released (and I acknowledge the huge effort that these take to produce) I wonder if any physical releases of this type will be hideously expensive in 5 or so years time (if they are even produced at all by then).

    • Coleman

      October 8th, 2021 - 11:54am

      That’s a good point Kevin225, that not many people talk about, will these Collection sets be even viable by the time they get to Nu Who. Will they even be Viable by the time we get to Seasons 1 to 6 with all the work involved in upgrading these old films to Blu ray.
      I know Booboo mentioned along time ago digital down loads are the future and physical copys will be a thing of the past.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:00pm

      I’ll always still be happy to buy physical releases in the future. It’s so much better than just having the download

    • Kevin225

      October 9th, 2021 - 10:05pm

      Auton, I completely agree with you, but I feel that we will be part of an ever decreasing group of people. I suspect that physical releases will be practically non-existent as they won’t be economically viable to produce in < 5 years. I hope not though, but we are fast becoming dinosaurs!

  • Doug Who

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:45pm

    Deliriously happy! I was expecting this announcement but not so quickly!

    My favourite series and ‘Shada’ in six parts…at last! Wonderfull! Looks like the usual excellent set of extras. ‘Doctor Who’ was never so much fun as this.

    Fabulous trailer too. So nice to hear David Gooderson again and what a difference the right modulation on his voice makes.

    Can’t wait!

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    • the ergon

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:22pm

      Have they modulated his voice for Destiny? i always felt that was the main problem with goodersons Davros he lacked that manic rasping grating voice that wisher had. He tried too hard and sounded too human. He never scared me at all.
      i bet the updated effects for nightmare are great. The original effects were ropey and will give the story a much needed boost.
      I,ll just settle for the DVDs until that standard Bluray set release.
      Even Colin loves the ‘Meddlesome hussy’ remark. Great stuff.

    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 5:28pm

      Soon as I heard Colin say that I thought of you ergon, I’m sure you commented on that in a previous post.

    • Doug Who

      October 7th, 2021 - 5:41pm

      Hi Ergon,

      The modulation for Gooderson’s Davros was inconsistent and often too low and ‘whispery’ (I’m sure Nick Briggs could tell me the technical term!) making the voice too human sounding. In the new trailer it’s much more in line with the ‘Genesis’ voice.

      Andrew Orton on Youtube added much better modulation and it makes the performance much closer to Wisher’s and much the stronger for it I think.

      Don’t know if they’ll do it for this set!

      I thought the ‘Nightmare’ models shots were ok but not as good as the model work for others. I always thought the Williams years featured some of the best ever in the ‘old’ series and lots of it in this set!

      “Meddlesome hussy!” is a great line and Adrasta one of the best villains ever. The late Myra Francis is fantastic and I remember the twist when she’s killed off early!

      I am SO excited for this set! Can’t possibly wait for the standard release!

    • the ergon

      October 7th, 2021 - 7:38pm

      Yes Doug those special Effects won,t seem as special by mid 23+. Only 26, 14, 8 and 24 before we get to this. i,m wanting those 4 out by the end of next year latest. Yes coleman it was in response to Gordons dislike for the story and in particular Graham Crowdens ‘hammy’ performance. I thought it was all the funnier for it, the comedy is partly why i love Doctor Who so much. Toms unexpected entrances always make me laugh. The scene where the doctor crawls in between the guards legs in abrupt fashion through the opening electronic door to the captains bridge in ‘The Pirate planet’ a particular Highlight ‘We must find the Doctor’ Hello, hello, I,m the Doctor delighted to meet you, heard so much about you….. ‘seize him’ or in this sets city of death when hes roughly manhandled by the counts henchman ‘i say what a wonderful butler, hes so violent’. Tom knew how to deliver those great one liners so well.

  • Louise Romana Wade

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:38pm

    City Of Death in HD!!! I’m going to be there for that. Also, my middle name is relevant for the whole season.

    Reply
  • Haza14

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:36pm

    Very exciting! Great trailer too! I haven’t seen any of these stories yet so looking forward to getting this! Great that Shada is included! Hope all goes well with no problems! And maybe, maybe, out before Christmas too! Haha

    Reply
    • Rory

      October 7th, 2021 - 5:15pm

      You are in for a treat. So many good stories, and Horns of Nimon.

  • Timelord63

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:35pm

    Does Zavvi take payment straight away or on dispatch like Amazon?

    Reply
    • Coleman

      October 7th, 2021 - 3:59pm

      Use Amazon if your not sure Timelord63.
      They won’t take payment until despatch, Great packaging and you’ll receive on release date if not before.

    • Gordon

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:17pm

      They don’t

    • the ergon

      October 7th, 2021 - 4:38pm

      Not speaking for the limited Editions but for The standards i always seem to get a quick delivery with HMV and similarly as quick for the animated releases I use Zavvi. Evil arrived a few days before release date.

  • Gordon

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:30pm

    Really happy with what they done with season 17. Amazed at the amount of new features.

    Reply
    • Doug Who

      October 7th, 2021 - 6:42pm

      Couldn’t agree more Gordon! It was unimaginable not that long ago that they could do any more with the series but these sets are simply incredible. To have season 17 with an episodic ‘Shada’ is glorious!

      I wish Graham Williams was still around to experience the love for these stories after all the endless carping he had to endure from the humourless types in DWAS at the time.

  • no name

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:26pm

    Guessing that the Shada with McGann is not included?

    Reply
    • Children of davros

      October 7th, 2021 - 3:31pm

      Well presumably as it’s not part of season seventeen

    • Gordon

      October 7th, 2021 - 3:32pm

      Think that will be held off for when they do the wilderness years stuff. It fits better there as that will probably have the TV movie and other bits and bobs connected to it

    • Louise Romana Wade

      October 7th, 2021 - 3:37pm

      It’s possible. It was included on all other DVD versions as a bonus extra, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be here.

    • Kenny

      October 7th, 2021 - 3:55pm

      I agree that it will likely be held off for the Wilderness Years set. Having as much McGann material together in one set makes sense, and as that set could very well have all the webcast animated material released together in a set, it just makes more sense for that version of Shada to be there with Real Time and Death Comes to Time and Shalka.

  • Duff

    October 7th, 2021 - 3:16pm

    Already in pre-order baby!

    Reply

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