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October 11th, 2021 186 comments

Doctor Who The Collection Season 17 Blu-ray

Available to order from www.amazon.co.uk, www.zavvi.com, www.hive.co.uk and other selected retailers

Build your own Doctor Who archive with this collectors’ set.

  • DESTINY OF THE DALEKS
  • CITY OF DEATH
  • THE CREATURE FROM THE PIT
  • NIGHTMARE OF EDEN
  • THE HORNS OF NIMON
  • SHADA

With all episodes newly remastered from the best available sources, this Blu-ray box set also includes extensive and exclusive Special Features including:

BRAND NEW DOCUMENTARIES
Including a Making-Of documentary for Destiny Of The Daleks, and new featurette for The Creature From The Pit.

TOM TALKS
A candid interview with Tom Baker as he gives us his unique take on life, the universe and everything.

DOUGLAS ADAMS TRIBUTE
Friends and colleagues remember the Doctor Who writer/script editor and creator of The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy.

IN CONVERSATION
Matthew Sweet chats to Bob Baker, writer of Nightmare Of Eden, co-creator of K9 and one of the creative forces behind Wallace & Gromit.

BEHIND THE SOFA

New episodes with actors Colin Baker, Katy Manning, Matthew Waterhouse, Nicola Bryant, June Hudson, Graeme Harper & Mat Irvine.

LALLA WARD INTERVIEW
An extensive interview discussing her first year on the programme.

UPDATED SPECIAL EFFECTS
View Nightmare Of Eden with optional new effects.

SHADA
An updated version of the ‘lost’ story, completed with enhanced animation and presented in six episodes for the very first time, alongside the original 1992 VHS and 2017 versions.

EXCLUSIVE NEW AUDIO COMMENTARIES
With Tom Baker on episodes of Destiny Of The Daleks and City Of Death, and Lalla Ward & Catherine Schell on City Of Death.

EXTENDED EPISODE
An early cut of The Creature From The Pit Part Three.

BLU-RAY TRAILER
A familiar face returns in a brand new mini-episode of classic Doctor Who.

IMMERSIVE 5.1 SURROUND SOUND
On Destiny Of The Daleks and Shada.

RARE GEMS FROM THE ARCHIVES

BBC archive material covering the promotion of this season.

CONVENTION FOOTAGE
A triumphant 1997 appearance from Tom Baker.

HD PHOTO GALLERIES
Including many previously unseen images.

PRODUCTION SUBTITLES
Behind-the-scenes information and trivia on every episode.

SCRIPTS, COSTUME DESIGNS, RARE BBC PRODUCTION FILES AND OTHER RARITIES FROM OUR PDF ARCHIVE AND LOTS MORE!

The seven-disc box set also includes hours of special features previously released on DVD.

Clean artwork and cover by Lee Binding


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186 comments

  • Rob W

    October 20th, 2021 - 8:32am

    I see the BBC will soon be using using a new BBC logo with “our own font – which we own the intellectual rights to – when we update content or BBC products”.

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    • Anonymous

      October 20th, 2021 - 1:14pm

      Yes, I immediately thought about the uniformity of the Doctor Who blu-ray sets too… Sadly I suspect they won’t retain the old logo for these sets

    • Rob W

      October 20th, 2021 - 3:03pm

      New series airs 31 October? So we’ll see how different it looks.

    • Neill Stringer

      October 21st, 2021 - 7:13pm

      Fortunately the new BBC logo is not too much of a departure so at least it will keep the look ok for the sets

    • D84

      October 21st, 2021 - 9:08pm

      Yes I thought that, the “new” logo appears to be a very subtle change of don’t within the squares. I’m hoping at a passing glance it won’t be too noticeable

    • Philip Shaw

      October 22nd, 2021 - 1:39pm

      Will they change the ‘Doctor Who’ logo when Jodie’s left though?

    • D84

      October 22nd, 2021 - 2:37pm

      I would lean more towards a yes on that one (logo change) – they usually do, even if its a subtle change (9 to 10)

      Although I do recall a mention of BBC Studio’s bringing “uniformity” to merchandise hence why we have the current logo across all of the collection sets and Macra Terror Animation onwards.
      I think I would have preferred each season’s logo – or doctor’s logo to be used on the respective release but I’m probably repeating an old thread there.

      I would prefer them to keep it as it is for the collection sets now they have started – but it really wouldn’t surprise me if we do see a change before we get all 27 sets on the shelf.

    • Rory

      October 22nd, 2021 - 4:14pm

      Agreed D84. I’d far prefer having the sets consistent, and it’s not like they can do reversible covers for these ones.

    • Gordon

      October 22nd, 2021 - 4:47pm

      I’m sure if the doctor who logo changes the collection box sets will stay the same. Those involved making the sets don’t see the logo changing.

  • Ian Cotterill

    October 17th, 2021 - 11:23pm

    I’ve a couple of speculative thoughts regarding the sound options on ‘Destiny Of The Daleks’ and ‘Shada’:

    1) On the 5.1 surround sound option, could Davros’ voice be re-vocalised to match David Gooderson’s performance in the trailer?

    2) Are we likely to get a music-only option for ‘Shada’?

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    • Auton

      October 18th, 2021 - 8:56am

      1. Doubt it as all the others were just 5.1 surround sound of the existing audio and 2. Hopefully as the Shada soundtrack does sound amazing and the closest thing to the city of death running through Paris music which I adore

    • Gordon

      October 18th, 2021 - 11:27am

      1. Mark ayres has teased there might be.
      2. Wasn’t mentioned and going by previous releases they normally say at the announcement stage so I don’t think it will have

  • D84

    October 11th, 2021 - 10:35pm

    With S17 now announced (yay) lets look at next year.

    Could We see a Pertwee possibily, there are still 3 sets to go – but depends how much restoration is required I guess.
    They may be rumbling along in the background for a release further down the line (especially the stories that have already had colour restoration for DVD) – they may be harder to bring up to Blu Ray standard – just a guess.

    I do think its highly likely we will see a Davison set soon as we have 2 to go and we’ve not had a Davison set since 2018 (I think)

    Beyond that, I cant see them completing either 6th or 7th doctors sets before there are only 1 or 2 to go per doctor so maybe another Tom set? 13, 15 & 16 all to go yet.

    That would be my prediction for the 2022 release schedule based on nothing by my own opinions and guesswork around what we’ve had and what is left to go.

    I sincerely hope that S1 – 6 receive the collection treatment only when a full season is ready to go combining surviving episodes plus new animation (throw in the telesnaps as an extra rather than the main feature) so for me we are 1-2 years away from seeing any Hartnell or Troughton sets. Just my opinion

    I’d really rather not have a Collection set with Telesnaps etc in it soon, and then in a couple of years a revised super super special collection edition that is completed with animations (if – and once they are all done)

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    • Anonymous

      October 12th, 2021 - 12:30am

      Given the rumours/info shared on here, I predict we’ll see Seasons 22, 20 and a Pertwee sandwiched between them (11?).

      Then, for the Anniversary year, 13, 25 and 7…

    • Kenny

      October 12th, 2021 - 3:13pm

      My prediction is exactly the same for next year. Based on rumors I have seen I would not be surprised by 20 and 22, and a Pertwee makes sense as a way to breakaway from the 80s.

      For the Anniversary year it would be terrific is the animated Marco Polo (in a solo release) and put out the First Season in this newly completed form. It is hard to say what they will do, but if that isn’t a great way to celebrate the 60th, I dunno what is.

    • scotel

      October 12th, 2021 - 4:16pm

      We know Season 9 will be the next Pertwee (we’ve seen pictures of colour restoration work being done on The Time Monster), so that’s just a matter of when.

      I’m expecting Season 9, a Tom Baker set (either 15 or 16) and another 80s set (probably Season 22).

    • The ergon

      October 12th, 2021 - 4:19pm

      Having all the remaining classic doctors back but as something evil.

    • Gordon

      October 12th, 2021 - 9:44pm

      Having had time to ponder on it I do think it will be 22 and 9 but the order will all depend on what the final release will be. If they manage to get mark Strickson over in time for 20 being the final set I can see it being 22, 9, 20 to split the 2 80’s sets up. If it isn’t going to be season 20 I can see it being another Tom ending the year and to split the 2 70’s sets I can see it being 9,22 and 15.

      As for Marco animated and season 1 for 2023 it does seem the obvious choice and out of the remaining stories it’s my most wanted so I’m certainly all for it. However I worry if they will have enough time to do it justice in time for the 60th aniversary. If they are going to do it in 2d they will have had to have started it now or just in the process of doing it. Look at evil of the daleks it’s also a 7 parter. It took 18 months to do and it had less characters sets and locations. For comparison including costume changes Marco Polo has 27 credited characters. Evil only had 13. Marco has 11 locations compared with evil’s 11 but Marco’s locations are far more complex. Could see this being a 2 year minimum project. Sure they could go down the 3d route but as much as I see the potential it needs massively refined before they go anywhere near such a large story as Marco Polo.

    • Basil Funkenstein

      October 12th, 2021 - 11:13pm

      Personally I think we’ll see 9, 22, and 15 next year.

      25, 20, and 16 in 2023 (Possibly season 1 but I’d prefer to have an entire season available before releasing the black and white 60’s eras.)

      11, Wilderness years, and a sixties set in 2024.

      7 and two sixties sets in 2025.

      13 and two sixties sets in 2026.

      Depending if they do season 1 in 2023 that covers all the sets. If they don’t then there will be one sixties set left over for 2027.

    • Basil Funkenstein

      October 13th, 2021 - 12:51am

      I forgot season 21. That could be with a sixties set in 2027.

    • Auton

      October 13th, 2021 - 7:02am

      Season 9 thenI think instead of season 22 it’s going to be season 21 but again it all depends on Mark Strickson availability and then season 15

    • DPHill

      October 13th, 2021 - 11:57am

      I dare wonder whether for the anniversary year they may announce and release the first modern set to bulk out the latter end of the classics, one can dream…

      Your predictions do seem good, where would you put 21 Basil?

    • D84

      October 13th, 2021 - 1:48pm

      I’m with you DPHill – I truly hope NuWho gets the same treatment even if it is at the latter end of the “classic” seasons being released it even after they are all done. By then – around 20 years will have passed since we all heard those magic notes new and on live TV for the first time in 16yrs (9 if you count the Movie) More then enough time for making of’s / then and now / behind the sofa etc.

      Indeed, one can dream

    • whofan44

      October 13th, 2021 - 5:06pm

      Altho I really want them to do new who I do worry that that portion of the collection will never be complete. If the series is still going when they get caught up will they start releasing 2 versions of the series box sets normal and collection version? Will the range end/blu ray stop being a thing before the show ends and thus the collection never being complete? I do want new who collection sets but I don’t want an incomplete collection.

    • D84

      October 13th, 2021 - 9:05pm

      An excellent point Whofan44 I had not considered that angle……… interesting

    • Gordon

      October 13th, 2021 - 10:32pm

      Because a lot of the collection extras are being reflective and looking back at the seasons (writers room, doctor’s table etc) I don’t really see them doing collection sets at the same time as the show is going out. You also need to take into account that the current cast/crew at the time might not be as honest or as open as they would be if it was for events 10-15 years prior. Plus whoever is in charge at the time might not be as allowing for access. Rtd might be okay with it but whoever is in charge after him might not be as allowing. There most certainly will be a cut off point. The obvious question will be what the cut off point? The end of jodie’s era would be a good cutting off point at present but whose to say the rtd2 era won’t be over by the time we get to it?

    • D84

      October 14th, 2021 - 10:42am

      Indeed Gordon more excellent points.

      I guess its a minefield for the guys who produce the sets.

      I guess I’m probably being overly hopeful but I just love the idea of everything in one uniform look on the shelf.

      Doctor Who is the only physical media that I buy and even own these days but then again like a lot of other fans on here I have gone through all the VHS and then all the DVD’s of Who, and now Blu Ray.

      My wife just sigh’s at me 🙂

    • Bobby Fackrell

      October 22nd, 2021 - 7:58am

      I believe they have confirmed the black and white sets will be included and also there is no direct link with the animations but they would take advantage of it
      I simply don’t see all six being left until the end, I agree the popular rumour of season one coming out for the 60th bit that’s not a guarantee I still think and hope two or six may come out next year

  • Gordon

    October 10th, 2021 - 8:27pm

    City of death at the bfi southbank Sunday 5th December

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    • DWF

      October 10th, 2021 - 9:14pm

      Where does it say this?

    • D84

      October 10th, 2021 - 10:33pm

      Excellent, let’s hope the release date doesn’t slip this time

    • Gordon

      October 11th, 2021 - 9:03am

      @DWF Justin Johnson of the bfi said on twitter

  • Auton

    October 10th, 2021 - 8:28am

    This is probably going to sound stupid, but in the teaser trailer for this release who is the person being interviewed for the new making of destiny of the daleks? I know one of the people is obviously Tom Baker but who is the other person?

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    • Auton

      October 10th, 2021 - 9:01am

      False alarm, I think found who it is, its David Yip isn’t it

    • Mark Moxham

      October 10th, 2021 - 11:26am

      David Yip

    • Auton

      October 10th, 2021 - 11:50am

      Yea thank you

  • JLBWHO

    October 10th, 2021 - 2:46am

    Pre-ordered this one ASAP.
    Same day my mum let me know she’s pre ordered it me for Christmas so cancelled mine and waiting those 12 long days haha.
    Even at 24, everyone knows how obsessed with Who I am.

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    • Prowl 1701

      October 10th, 2021 - 6:55am

      It’s a good obsession to have! Looking forward to the episodic version of Shada!

    • MDS

      October 10th, 2021 - 11:03am

      I’m 53 and the obsession has never stopped. Just ask my family and friends. Looking forward to the updated Nightmare of Eden.

    • Coleman

      October 10th, 2021 - 11:59am

      Similar age to me MDS, I just turned 54 a couple of weeks ago. I’ve Definitely got a Sci-fi obsession.

    • Philip Shaw

      October 11th, 2021 - 8:37am

      I’m 57! Nearly as old as Dr Who itself, born in 1964, the story nearest to my Birthdate was ‘The Aztecs’. I didn’t start watching properly until Pertwee though.

    • the ergon

      October 11th, 2021 - 10:08am

      Phillip Can you remember the first story you watched and do you have any vague memories of any of the lost classics you might have viewed when originally transmitted? I,ve been a lifelong fan myself but only started watching during the tailend of the pertwee era.

    • Coleman

      October 11th, 2021 - 11:03am

      My earliest memories are of Pertwee. Probably watched it before him, but have no memories before 5 or so.

    • Prof Horner

      October 11th, 2021 - 11:57am

      My earliest memory of Doctor Who was The Dominators when I had just turned five.

    • Coleman

      October 11th, 2021 - 12:20pm

      Prof Horner, sounds like your the oldest one of us yet to comment. You’ll probably remember some of the lost stories that were never to be seen again?

    • Philip Shaw

      October 11th, 2021 - 12:25pm

      I remember the Medusa snake heads from ‘The Mind robber’ as my earliest memory, I was only 3 at the time, can’t recall anything else really until ‘Spearhead from Space’.

    • Anonymous

      October 11th, 2021 - 12:48pm

      I know their was someone on here awhile back that used to comment he’d watched Who, right from the begining. Hope he comments again as I’d love to hear about some of the lost stories?

    • Things that go bump in the night

      October 11th, 2021 - 1:53pm

      I’m a young 63 (born ’58) and still very much enjoy Doctor Who, even New Who.

      Earliest memories (some vaguer than others) are

      1) Hiding from The Daleks in London…
      2) Why there were no ‘monsters’ in Marco Polo…
      3) Zarbis’ in Web Planet…
      4) Catching Chicken Pox the day after after watching Peter Cushing’s first outing as Dr Who at the ABC Blackpool – was on holiday at the time, so spoilt it…
      5) Getting fed up waiting for Doctor Who to start as a certain match in 1966 had gone to extra time…

    • Prof Horner

      October 11th, 2021 - 2:21pm

      Not really Coleman, season 6 is the first season I remember and the really only lost story is The Space Pirates and I only really having vague memory of The Tardis arriving on the beacon in episode one. I remember watching The Invasion , The Seed of Death and particularly The War Games.

    • The ergon

      October 11th, 2021 - 11:03pm

      The good thing is we can visualise with those telesnaps and the few stills photos but there are those thatwe dont dont like the space pirates. I still have those panini lost stories bookazines the first and second doctor. I sometimes use those as reference if i listen the audios. I mention the space pirates as example as i still cant visualise little things like dom issigri and others.

    • Coleman

      October 12th, 2021 - 9:57am

      Great memories, Things that go bump in the night. I bet alot of whovians would have loved to have good memories of the missing episodes. Good point you make about why no monsters in Marco Polo. I should imagine alot of children back that started watching Dr Who because it was Science Fiction and full of Aliens. So the Historical episodes would seem abit “strange.”

  • Coleman

    October 9th, 2021 - 2:14pm

    Last two days I’ve had trouble watching the trailer again. Is it my signal or is everyone having this problem?

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    • Gordon

      October 9th, 2021 - 2:24pm

      Doctor who social media channels (facebook twitter YouTube etc) are all down. Most suspect it’s a marketing thing for series 13 which is baffling

    • Coleman

      October 9th, 2021 - 2:56pm

      Yes Gordon, now you mention it, it’s probably a marketing ploy to garner interest.
      It’s probably working. I wondered what was going on.

    • Auton

      October 9th, 2021 - 3:27pm

      It’s only making me less excited for series 13 as now I can’t watch season 17 teaser trailer on repeat anymore

    • Prowl1701

      October 9th, 2021 - 6:46pm

      I feel the same, Auton. Love that trailer. Plus I’m just way more excited for season 17 than I am series 13 honestly. I’m a huge Tom Baker fan.

  • RPG74

    October 9th, 2021 - 11:10am

    City snd Shada are the only two classics for me, the rest I can take or leave, so I’ll settle for my current versions and pass on this set. A standard version will appear within a year, so I potentially have forever in which to change my mind. My priorities now are filling the gaps in my shelf where I don’t have previous versions of the stories at all, which means Peter’s last two seasons and Colin’s first. Anyone care to hazard a guess when they might show up?

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    • Gordon

      October 9th, 2021 - 12:37pm

      Peter’s last 2 will all depend on when they can get mark Strickson over from new Zealand. With Covid restrictions not expected to be lowered till early next year. Even once he’s available to come over they will also have to plan a time for him to come over when everyone is available. Might not be till the middle of next year or even later before they are available to film. Could be another year away minimum before we get the next Peter set (which is extremely likely to be season 20 as they have already recorded some material for it). They obviously won’t be wanting to have out both of those Peter seasons too close together so I don’t see the other 1 out till 2024/2025.

      As for colin’s first he has said he was offered the option of filming in Spain for the 2 doctors documentary but apparently turned it down. The fact that they are enquiring about filming for this story does sound like they are at the least planning stages for it. There was also a twitter rumour floating around just before the news of season 17 broke that season 22 would be coming soon so it would not surprise me if the next or the one after it will be season 22. The next 1 won’t be another Tom and I doubt they would put out another sylvester so quickly after s24. I doubt we will see a black and white till at least 2023 and as I’ve said the 2 Peter seasons has the mark strickson situation. It only leaves a pertwee and a colin set as possibilities for next

    • RPG74

      October 9th, 2021 - 1:18pm

      Interesting, thanks Gordon.

    • Philip shaw

      October 9th, 2021 - 2:42pm

      Can Mark Strickson not zoom or Skype in on a live feed with the others in the studio?

    • Gordon

      October 9th, 2021 - 3:45pm

      Depends on what they need him for. If it’s an on camera interview they could film from New Zealand but if they want him together with the rest of the tardis team for say behind the sofa or at a certain location it’s not really possible to do it from New Zealand and Russell Minton has ruled out using zoom/Skype stating “absolutely not”

  • Bushboy

    October 9th, 2021 - 6:11am

    I wonder if the new effects on Destiny of the Daleks have been corrected from the DVD release? The DVD effects added laser beams coming from above triggering explosions which were supposed to be the result of underground drilling.

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    • Gordon

      October 9th, 2021 - 8:16am

      It was already fixed for the American dvd release

    • Ian Cotterill

      October 9th, 2021 - 8:46am

      Ah, I didn’t know that they removed that error for the US release.

  • Kenny

    October 8th, 2021 - 10:08pm

    Was just thinking about how much fun the reveal trailers have been for all of these sets, and it dawned on me, what would be terrific is a Wilderness Years trailer to give us just a glimmer extra of McGann as the Doctor. A guy can dream…

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    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:14pm

      I’m sure that will happen in the future

  • Prof Horner

    October 8th, 2021 - 4:47pm

    Interesting that Shada has enhanced animation. When they get around to releasing season 5 does that mean do you think that we may get enhanced animation on Web of Fear episode 3. That is if we dont get the original episode returned first.

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    • Ian Cotterill

      October 8th, 2021 - 5:27pm

      I’m assuming that once they’ve done more animation to fill the remaining gaps, they will start getting around to releasing 1st and 2nd Doctor boxsets as well.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 5:45pm

      The collection team won’t have enough budget to improve the animation releases from 1-6 so if the animation is ever improved it has to be done as an separate animation release

    • Doug Who

      October 8th, 2021 - 6:20pm

      According to Rob Ritchie the animation has been ‘cleaned up’ and there’s only one shot that’s had some extra work.

      I’m still really looking forward to the six part version, although I have seen the ‘other’ privately funded animation which was…interesting shall we say!

    • Gordon

      October 8th, 2021 - 6:53pm

      Think those expecting massive reworking to the likes of web 3 are going to be massively disappointed. Charles Norton describes the changes as minimal: “Mostly some regrading and some corrections to the frame-rate here and there”. Mark Ayres has also fixed up some of the errors with the sound. I do wonder if the budget could stretch to do 1 scene. Rough and tumble scene springs to mind

    • Prof Horner

      October 9th, 2021 - 9:22am

      So not much of a enhancement after all. Thanks for clearing that up.

  • Mac

    October 8th, 2021 - 2:59pm

    Help needed

    https://mobile.twitter.com/edstradling/status/1446146899803877378

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  • Doctor Blu

    October 8th, 2021 - 9:45am

    Season 17 is a fairly good season. ‘City of Death’ is the stand out bona fide classic of the season. A gem!

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  • BW

    October 8th, 2021 - 8:50am

    Good news, but the extras sound a bit… thin? Making-ofs for stories that already have making-ofs and a Lalla Ward interview that’s clearly so old that it’s been filmed in standard def. I hope it’s done to availability and not the budgets on the sets being cut.

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    • simon.ss1

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:17am

      I just want to watch classic Doctor Who episodes as they were originally shown, and in the best possible quality. Don’t care about the extras.

    • Auton

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:36am

      Destiny of the daleks is getting a making of and it’s only horns of nimon missing anything that resembles a making of but it’s got a great commentary and production subtitles so that will easily give a lot of behind the scenes information. Bits of the Lalla Ward interview has been seen before but the majority hasn’t so that’s still new plus Lalla Ward is living in Hong Kong so they can’t do anything new with her.

    • Philip Shaw

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:06pm

      More likely because of Covid and delay’s in the sets for the lack of more extra’s. there is all the original extra’s from the DVD’s on as well which aren’t listed.

    • Gordon

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:19pm

      Seems on par with other releases

      1. Destiny of the daleks making of: Brand new. The original release had a terry nation overview so didn’t have a making of

      2, creature from the pit featurette: the original documentary was focused just on Erato so this is probably going to feature more on the actual story/production

      3. Tom talks: brand new

      4. Douglas adams tribute: brand new. Probably the longest documentary on the set

      5. In conversation with Bob baker: brand new. Most sets have 1 (10 18 excluded)

      6. Behind the sofa: brand new. Standard for every set

      7. Lalla ward interview; old footage but as auton mentions we have seen very little of it

      8. New special effects for nightmare in Eden: brand new. Most sets have 1 (24/26 excluded)

      9. Extended creature from the pit ep 3: extended ep is new but the extended footage may have been on the original dvd

      10. Shada the “definitive edition”: newly edited 6 part version. Kind of new: The audio will probably be changed slightly to fit the cliffhangers. Also Rob Ritchie has said he’s done a little bit of additional fixing on the animation so it’s not just a case of cutting a cliffhanger every 25 mins..

      11. Shada 1992/2017: previously released

      12. New audio commentaries: Both the Tom baker and the lalla ward/Catherine Schell commentaries are brand new

      13. Blu ray trailer: brand new for blu ray

      14. 5.1 surround sound: destiny is brand new. 2021 Shada is new but 2017 shada isnt

      15. Rare gems from the archive: some old but also some new

      16. Convention footage: never released before on blu ray

      17. Production subtitles: updated

      18. Photo gallery: updated expanded and now in HD

      19. Pdf files. Massively expanded (6488 pdf files!!!!)

      And that doesn’t include the other material that we don’t yet know about.

      Out of all that the lalla interview and the 92/17 versions of shada are the only real usage of old material from the DVDs that was announced and the lalla footage we have only seen a small part of it. Everything else is new, new to the range or updated. Only real thing missing is a making of for the horns of nimon and perhaps something with tom on Eden but from what I gather this and Eden wasn’t a happy time for most and a lot of people involved on screen either don’t want to be interviewed on it or are no longer with us. Also Wouldn’t have minded if tom had done behind the sofa but as he’s pretty much all over the destiny/tom talks/adams features it kind of makes up for it

    • bryan

      October 8th, 2021 - 2:27pm

      There are items covered by. Rare BBC Archive still to be announced by the DWM team .

      There is a Shout out for better quality versions of Nationwide ( with Lalla Ward and David Brierly as K9)
      And a Lalla Ward Swap shop.. the former was asked for only yesterday on the Roobarbs forum)

      So still early to tell. There is at least another edition of Call my Bluff . No idea when that will show up.

      So looking forward to this.

    • RPG74

      October 8th, 2021 - 10:12pm

      Er, the Shada blu ray has 5.1 sound anyway, so this isn’t new-unless I’m missing something?

    • Auton

      October 9th, 2021 - 6:38am

      The 5.1 surround sound is new for the new 6 part Shada

    • RPG74

      October 9th, 2021 - 10:24am

      A different mix, or the same and just split into 6 different parts?

    • Gordon

      October 9th, 2021 - 12:01pm

      Mark ayres said a while ago if shada was 6 parter it would have had different music choices for the cliffhangers so I recon there is a chance it will be slightly different for the episodic version

    • fusion

      October 9th, 2021 - 3:08pm

      For someone who had just about everything released on VHS but only had the hatchette partwork (extra free versions) on dvd these are awesome. Fail to see what else you could reasonably ask for.

    • DanielM

      October 26th, 2021 - 4:58am

      I took the 5.1 for Shada to be for the 1992 Version as well. Let’s hope it has one!

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